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To: the invisib1e hand

Sorry, I hit reply a bit too soon.

Etymology indicates the source of the word. It is related to but not coterminous with its definition. I believe, as was posted above, that the word derives fromm Venetian dialect meaning iron forge (although, since I speak neither mainstream Italian nor Venetian dialect I can’t confirm this), but regardless, the fact that a word derives from another one gives insight and color but not a full definition. This is precisely why I wrote in my first post that “functionally” the ghettos were walled and gated.


9 posted on 02/10/2011 6:33:26 AM PST by Piranha (Obama won like Bernie Madoff attracted investors: by lying about his values, policy and plans.)
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To: Piranha
Actually, I think it depends upon whether the enclosure was decided upon by the inhabitants, or imposed upon them from outside.

Creating a boundary (eruv) around an Orthodox Jewish neighborhood (in the old days, a wall with doors; these days a symbolic boundary, like wires strung on utility poles) allows certain activities (like carrying objects or pushing a baby carriage) to be performed on the Sabbath. So it's not necessarily a bad thing. Obviously in some places it became a bad thing but that doesn't necessary reflect on the concept.

The Toco Hills eruv is probably the best known in Atlanta. It really is a completely self-sufficient community. My vet's office is about 50 yards outside the SW boundary.

10 posted on 02/10/2011 4:12:42 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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