Posted on 02/20/2011 6:01:42 AM PST by Paragon Defender
By Elder Cecil O. Samuelson Jr.
Of the Presidency of the Seventy
Cecil O. Samuelson Jr., "Words of Jesus: Forgiveness", Ensign, Feb. 2003, 48
Forgive, and ye shall be forgiven (Luke 6:37).
It is the Saviors desire that we each feel His peace. He said: Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid (John 14:27). In these troubled times, a familiar hymn assures us:
We may have much that worries us, and we may find many reasons to be concerned. Yet, as President Spencer W. Kimball (18951985) observed, peace and the Saviors doctrine of forgiveness are inseparably connected: The essence of forgiveness is that it brings peace to the previously anxious, restless, frustrated, perhaps tormented soul. 2
Luke records a story from the life of the Savior that demonstrates the kind of peace the Savior bestows when we receive His forgiveness (see Luke 7:3650). Jesus was invited to the home of Simon, a Pharisee, for dinner. A woman who is described as a sinner learned that Jesus was in the house and came, bringing ointment. As Jesus rested leaning forward on a couch with His feet extended away from the table, the woman approached Him from behind, weeping and washing His feet with her tears. She wiped His feet with her hair, kissed them, and poured the fragrant ointment on them, taking care to gently rub the oil into His feet. The host found fault with Jesus for accepting this act of kindness from a sinner. Jesus perceived his thoughts and offered for his chastisement one of His most poignant lessons on the doctrine of forgiveness.
He told the story of a creditor who had two debtors. One owed 10 times more than the other. Neither had the means to pay his debt, so the creditor graciously forgave them both. Tell me therefore, the Savior asked, which of [the debtors] will love [the creditor] most? (Luke 7:42). Simon rightly answered that the debtor who owed the most would probably love the most.
Jesus then compared Simons lack of care and hospitality for Him to the womans actions. The Master wanted Simon to see himself in the story as the debtor who owed less and the woman as the debtor who owed more. Jesus reinforced His point by saying, Wherefore I say unto thee, Her sins, which are many, are forgiven; for she loved much: but to whom little is forgiven, the same loveth little (Luke 7:47).
Jesus then turned His attention to the woman. Looking her in the eyes, He bestowed His peace upon her, saying: Thy sins are forgiven. Thy faith hath saved thee; go in peace (Luke 7:48, 50).
We do not know the circumstances surrounding this womans transgressions, but we can imagine the gratitude, joy, and peace she must have felt at that moment.
We must look to the Savior, not the wisdom of the world, for peace and forgiveness. You may recall the story of the man with palsy who was paralyzed (see Matt. 9:18; Mark 2:112; Luke 5:1726).
The Savior was in Capernaum, teaching in a house crowded to overflowing. Four men came carrying their disabled friend on a stretcher, hoping Jesus would heal him. Because of the great congestion at the door, the men carried him to the roof, made an opening, and carefully lowered the palsied sufferer into the room where Jesus was. Jesus was not irritated by this interruption but was touched by their faith. He boldly and publicly said to the sick man, Son, be of good cheer; thy sins be forgiven thee (Matt. 9:2) and admonished him to sin no more (see Joseph Smith Translation, Matt. 9:2).
As the man still lay on his bed, some of the scribes and Pharisees thought to themselves that Jesus had just committed the sin of blasphemy (see Bible Dictionary, Blasphemy, 62526). He confronted their faithless minds by asking if it requires more power to forgive sins than to heal the sick (see Joseph Smith Translation, Luke 5:23). The Savior said that so His listeners would know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins (Matt. 9:6; see Joseph Smith Translation, Matt. 9:6).
Jesus then turned to the palsied man and declared, Arise, and take up thy bed, and go thy way into thine house (Mark 2:11). And immediately he arose and did as he was commanded. The complainers and critics could not dispute the obvious miracle and its clear implication: Jesus has the power to forgive sins. And good cheer or peace results when we know that our sins have truly been forgiven by Him.
When the Master taught His disciples what to do when they felt offended or received trespasses (see Matt. 18:1535), it seemed to them to be a new doctrine. If thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother (Matt. 18:15). The Saviors words about forgiving others required a significant adjustment in attitude. They had been schooled in the notion of an eye for an eye (Matt. 5:38; see Lev. 24:20). Peter, wanting to be sure he understood the meaning of the teaching, asked, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times? (Matt. 18:21). Peter was probably aware of the rabbinical requirement that the offender make the first move to resolve the offense and that the offended person forgive only two or three times. 3
Jesus answered with clarity, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven (Matt. 18:22). In other words, there must be no constraints, numerical or otherwise, placed on our forgiveness of others.
The Savior then told His disciples a parable so that they might more fully appreciate, remember, and apply the lesson that we must forgive everyone (see Matt. 18:2332). He described a king who wanted to settle his accounts with his servants who owed him money. The first servant owed him 10,000 talents, which would probably be the modern equivalent of millions of U.S. dollars. The servant was not able to repay the debt, so the king ordered him and his family to be sold into slavery. The desperate servant petitioned for time and patience, promising to pay all. Touched by his sincerity, the king was moved with compassion and forgave his very large debt. The servant, therefore, fell down and worshiped him.
This same servant, who had just been the recipient of the kings wonderful act of mercy and forgiveness, immediately went in search of a fellow servant who owed him 100 pence, the probable equivalent of a few U.S. dollars. He rudely demanded immediate payment. When the fellow servant pleaded for time and patience, the first servant was not willing to extend what he had just freely received from the king. He had his fellow servant cast into prison until he could pay the debt. This callous act was observed by other servants and duly reported to the king. And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him. Jesus then added this postscript, So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses (Matt. 18:3435).
Those who wish to consider themselves as disciples of the Master must understand that we, like the first servant, owe a great debt to our Heavenly King for the many gifts we have received from Him. This understanding unlocks the door to the gifts of repentance and our own forgiveness. The retention of these gifts depends upon our faithful forgiveness of those who have offended us. The Savior said, Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy (Matt. 5:7) and, With what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged (Matt. 7:2).
Forgiving others, however, does not necessarily mean that we would endorse or approve of the behavior or transgression. In fact, there are many actions and attitudes that deserve clear condemnation. But even in these we must completely forgive the offender. Forgive, and ye shall be forgiven (Luke 6:37).
The Savior was very clear that, conditioned on repentance, all of our sins can be forgiven through His sacred and atoning sacrifice except for what He called blasphemy against the Holy Ghost (Matt. 12:31; see also Mark 3:2829). The Prophet Joseph Smith taught on this subject: Jesus will save all except the sons of perdition. What must a man do to commit the unpardonable sin? He must receive the Holy Ghost, have the heavens opened unto him, and know God, and then sin against Him. 4
Thus, the clear assurance of the Redeemer is that all sins shall be forgiven (Mark 3:28) when we repent, for the Saviors mission was to preach repentance (see Joseph Smith Translation, Mark 3:22; see also Mosiah 26:2930).
The Savior taught His disciples on two separate occasions that they were to pray for forgiveness of sins or debts to God. We are also to demonstrate the sincerity of our prayers by forgiving those who have sinned against us. He instructed them to pray, Forgive us our debts [offenses], as we forgive our debtors [those who have offended us] (Matt. 6:12) and, Forgive us our sins; for we also forgive every one that is indebted to us (Luke 11:4). Implicit in this teaching is a direct link between pleading for forgiveness and our efforts to repent of all our sins.
In all our forgiving and seeking forgiveness, we must recognize that, despite whatever restitution we may be capable of providing or receiving, our efforts and those of others are woefully insufficient to meet the demands of eternal justice. How, then, is true forgiveness possible? Paul, in speaking to the Ephesians, wrote that it is in Christ that we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace (Eph. 1:7).
The blessings that flow from the gift of forgiveness are many. Chief among them is peace. It is the Saviors desire that we each feel His peace. He said: Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid (John 14:27). The forgiveness we offer to others and the forgiveness we receive from Jesus Christ lead us to Him and along the path to eternal life.
Thanks for a nice reading before I head off to church.
Have you denied yourself of all ungodliness? Since Jesus grace is not sufficient for you until you have cleared all ungodliness out of your life, how can you be perfect in Christ? How can you receive His grace for salvation, if you havent stopped sinning and are not walking blameless before God, being sufficiently humble, stripped of pride and envy? Can you honestly say you have done all you can do for salvation?
I will add a couple verses from Titus, since the agitator apparently thinks that denying ungodliness in order to fully embrace have the grace of Christ is an unbiblical thing. I love the law of witnesses. Truth is eternal.
Titus 2:
11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
Can you not remove the big ‘warning’ post?
You are welcome! ;-)
"The agitator," Rip? Really? (Tell ya what, why don't you relook @ all those D&C & BoM verses about uncessary "contentiousness"...)
ALL: The bottom-line issue per Mormon leaders is WHAT is the basis of forgiveness?
Lds "apostle" Jeffrey Holland has claimed that forgiveness of personal sins applies to only members of the Mormon church:
From this Holland article: Latter-day Saints believe that other aspects of Christ's gift are conditional upon obedience and diligence in keeping God's commandments. For example, while members of the human family are freely and universally given a reprieve from Adam's sin through no effort or action of their own, they are not freely and universally given a reprieve of their own sins unless they pledge faith in Christ, repent of those sins, are baptized in his name, receive the gift of the Holy Ghost and confirmation into Christ's church...
From the article by Lds apostle Jeffrey Holland found at: ATONEMENT OF JESUS CHRIST - Mormon- (OPEN)
Did you all catch the above??? Per Mormonism -- this means that if you join the "wrong" church, your "reprieve of" your "own sins" isn't going to come from your pardon-Governing god. (More "conditions").
Bottom line: These manmade Mormon "conditions" are in reality workman wages. They aren't "gifts" at all. You have to work for it all; diligently; obediently; and touch all the right "association" bases. IOW these "bases" = your supposed "basis" of forgiveness by the condition-laden Mormon god.
I looked at the 1979 "Topical Guide" in the Lds version of its KJV -- and turned to the "worthiness" entry there: It tells me right up top it's related to the concept of "qualifying for" & then proceeds to verses like D&C 31:5: "Therefore, thrust in your sickle with all your soul, and YOUR SINS ARE FORGIVEN YOU, and you shall be laden with sheaves upon your back, for the laborer is worthy of his hire. Wherefore, your family shall live."
Ah. There it is: The Mormon "strategy":
Don't "trust" Christ for either forgiveness of yours sins or your salvation, "thrust in YOUR sickle."
You will never understand Grace until you understand you do not deserve it. Grace is inviting to the unrighteous and terrifying to the righteous.
You will never understand Grace until you understand you do not deserve it. Grace is inviting to the unrighteous and terrifying to the righteous.
Getting your horse before the cart again rip. grace stands alone and does not need to be earned - the fundamental definition of grace. And FROM that grace we have the chance to have our ungodliness removed.
Ick. How can you repeat that garbage? Even to repute it?
Hmm, how would you imagine that Ripliacum would have the power to delete DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis’ post?
So you are “adding” to your false, made-up “scriptures with the Word of God. Really?
Hmm, because I thought this was the private LDS thread.
Then how come mormons consider the unpardonable sin to be leaving the mormon church and finding Jesus' love thru REAL Christianity?
Hmm, nobody can remove replies from any thread except a mod or the owner or through the owner's authority.
The Prophet Joseph Smith explained, “No man can commit the unpardonable sin after the dissolution of the body, nor in this life, until he receives the Holy Ghost” (TPJS, p. 357). To commit the unpardonable sin, a person “must receive the Holy Ghost, have the heavens opened unto him, and know God, and then sin against Him. After a man has sinned against the Holy Ghost, there is no repentance for him . he has got to deny Jesus Christ when the heavens have been opened to him, and to deny the Plan of Salvation with his eyes open to the truth of it” (TPJS, p. 358; cf. Heb. 10:26-29).
http://www.lightplanet.com/mormons/basic/godhead/unpardonable_sin.html
All the ex-mormons who have denied the [mormon] “Plan of Salvation”, have committed the unpardonable sin in mormonism. By extension, according to them, we are “denying the Holy Ghost” which is “sinning against God”.
Bah! I embrace the Holy Ghost, Jesus and God, I discard the tripe uttered by JS.
The Savior was very clear that, conditioned on repentance, all of our sins can be forgiven through His sacred and atoning sacrifice except for what He called blasphemy against the Holy Ghost (Matt. 12:31; see also Mark 3:2829). The Prophet Joseph Smith taught on this subject: Jesus will save all except the sons of perdition. What must a man do to commit the unpardonable sin? He must receive the Holy Ghost, have the heavens opened unto him, and know God, and then sin against Him. 4
Thus, the clear assurance of the Redeemer is that all sins shall be forgiven (Mark 3:28) when we repent, for the Saviors mission was to preach repentance (see Joseph Smith Translation, Mark 3:22; see also Mosiah 26:2930).
{klaxon sound}
Sorry; but MORMONism teaches that 'the taking of innocent blood' must be 'atoned' by the PERP himself - Jesus didn't cover that!
The warning would stand regardless of this being a LDS Caucus thread or not.
There are rarely any LDS caucus threads anymore because there is little that can be discussed that is not an attack on Christ and Christianity, and attacking another belief system is not allowed in a Caucus thread.
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