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To: Elsie
And yet the Salt Lake City MORMONs are AFRAID of the UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT and do NOT follow what their GOD so plainly commanded them to do!

So all those mormon men who only have on wife are in complete violation of Joseph Smith and Brigham Young's commandments.

46 posted on 02/22/2011 12:01:50 PM PST by dragonblustar ("... and if you disagree with me, then you sir, are worse than Hitler!" - Greg Gutfeld)
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To: dragonblustar; Elsie; SZonian
So all those mormon men who only have on wife are in complete violation of Joseph Smith and Brigham Young's commandments.

Good point...note how late 19th -century Mormon "prophets" -- like Joseph F. Smith (Joseph Smith's Jr.'s nephew) pressured others...like in this 1878 message:

Some people have supposed that the doctrine of plural marriage was a sort of superfluity, or non-essential to the salvation or exaltation of mankind. In other words, some of the Saints have said, and believe, that a man with one wife, sealed to him by the authority of the Priesthood for time and eternity, will receive an exaltation as great and glorious, if he is faithful, as he possibly could with more than one. I WANT HERE TO ENTER MY SOLEMN PROTEST AGAINST THIS IDEA, FOR I KNOW IT IS FALSE. There is no blessing [blessing] promised except upon conditions, and NO BLESSING CAN BE OBTAINED BY MANKIND EXCEPT BY FAITHFUL COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS, OR LAW, upon which the same is promised. The marriage of one woman to a man for time and eternity by the sealing power, according to the law of God, is a fulfillment of the celestial law of marriage IN PART-and is good so far as it goes-and so far as a man abides these conditions of the law, he will receive his reward therefore [therefore], and this reward, or blessing, he could not obtain on any other grounds or conditions. But this is only the beginning of the law, not the whole of it. Therefore, whoever has imagined that he could obtain the fullness of the blessings pertaining to this celestial law, by complying with only a portion of its conditions, has deceived himself. He cannot do it (Journal of Discourses, vol. 20, p. 28 1878)

Lds “prophet” Smith made it quite clear that Mormons who duck polygamy are...
...out of compliance with the full measure of the law...
...therefore ineligible to obtain the fullness of the blessings pertaining to this celestial law...
...and he "protests the idea" that it is considered by some "saints" to a "non-essential to the salvation or exaltation of mankind."

Now this is a GREAT example of what I was saying 10 Things Every Mormon Needs to Know written by an anonymous Mormon @ Mormon Matters.org! [See post #18].

If what this 6th "prophet" of the Mormon church taught was a false teaching -- that indeed you don't have to be a polygamist or else you'll miss out on this "essential to the ...exaltation of manking" [becoming a Mormon god] -- then why don't we have Mormon leaders correcting this false prophet?

In another quote from that same year, Joseph F. Smith even invited such correction when he said: "It is an additional privilege for that same man and WIFE to re-enter the Temple of God to receive ANOTHER WIFE in like manner if THEY are worthy...If this is not correct doctrine than I am in error, and if I am in error I want to be corrected. I understand the law of celestial marriage to mean that EVERY MAN in this church, who has the ability to obey and practice it in righteousness and will not, SHALL BE DAMNED, I say I understand it to mean this AND NOTHING LESS, AND I TESTIFY IN THE NAME OF JESUS THAT IT DOES MEAN THAT. (Joseph F. Smith, July 7, 1878, Journal of Discourses 20:30-31)

Wow! A LOT to unpack there. Even though Joseph F. Smith comes across a little as "humble" and willingness to be corrected, he goes on to testify that Mormon men are to be polygamists or be damned!...and that "celestial marriage" means NOTHING less than that...and to top it off, he "testif[ies] in the Name of Jesus that it does mean that."

I guess contemporary Mormons have a few choices:
(1) They can stop beating around the bush and PUBLICLY call Joseph F. Smith, son of Hyrum Smith and nephew of Joseph Smith, Jr., a false prophet who was forcing men in 1878 to become polygamists or be damned and miss out on the highest level of the Mormon Kingdom.
(2) Or, they can say Smith was correct, and if they want to go for the highest part of the Mormon kingdom, then they better find a second wife!

Sadly, most Mormons will choose Option 3: They will stick with their current "prophet" and say that polygamy for the time being is wrong (on earth) and is ex-communication worthy. They will publicly NOT say a thing about these words from Joseph F. Smith; they'll just ignore these words as if they were never spoken.

BUT...and I say...BUT...Option #3 comes at a cost: If...
...they won't either publicly condemn Joseph F. Smith's doctrinal teaching on polygamy --
--or they won't become a polygamist...
THEN...the closing words of this 6th Mormon "prophet" become a curse on every Mormon who starts off a sentence with "I testify..." Because Joseph F. Smith closed out those words with "I TESTIFY IN THE NAME OF JESUS THAT IT DOES MEAN THAT."

And if they don't call that testimony a false one;
and they won't enter into living that testimony...then NO TESTIMONY OF ANY Mormon can ever be believable since that day!!!

50 posted on 02/22/2011 3:12:14 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: dragonblustar
So all those mormon men who only have on wife are in complete violation of Joseph Smith and Brigham Young's commandments.

Hateful BIGOT!

Those are GOD's commandments!!!

--MormonDude(Wait!! Why don't we FOLLOW them then???)

54 posted on 02/22/2011 8:23:11 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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