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To: RobRoy
Thank you RR -- however, this is not my words, but from the Bible and echoed in the catechim. These are Church teachings. We are told in Phil 2:12 to 12Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

Remember also Matt 10:22

22And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.
matt 24:13
13But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
Mark 13:13
13And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

So clearly we must "endure" in our Faith to the end, not reject our God-given salvation

Also, we are told to have belief
Mark 16:16

16He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned
Luke 13:3
3I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
Rom. 10:9
9That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Rom 10:13
13For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
yet Matt. 7:21
Not every one who says to me, "Lord, Lord," shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven
John 3:3
3Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
and finally 1 Pet. 3:21
21The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:

78 posted on 02/28/2011 7:05:42 AM PST by Cronos ("They object to tradition saying that they themselves are wiser than the apostles" - Ire.III.2.2)
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To: Cronos

>>So clearly we must “endure” in our Faith to the end, not reject our God-given salvation<<

When you add that clarification I see we agree. I love that you pointed out the apparent contradiction between Rom 10:13 and Matt 7:21. I say apparent, because as you and I both know, when one reads ALL of the words of Christ and the apostles, one gets to “know” Him and apply the correct context to the scriptures quoted.


114 posted on 02/28/2011 9:29:28 AM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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