Ted Haggard: Tiger Woods Got Restored, Why Can't Christian Leaders?

Christian Post ^ | 03/13/2011 | Elena Garcia

[jjotto]

Bakker is still brazenly begging for money on the Jim Bakker Show on cable television.

[LiteKeeper]

Tiger Woods is not leading a flock of Christians, and is not held to the standards of 1 Timothy 3.

[LiteKeeper]

Haggard and his entire family were to "permanently relocate outside Colorado;" he was not to engage in ministry

Apparently, his "word" (signature) is no good either. He is still living in his old house, and every Sunday evening there are 15 or 20 cars parked in front of his house for an evening service in his red horse barn.

[mdmathis6]

Well...that’s disappointing because for awhile there, Bakker, after leaving prison was helping out in a inner city ministry with a daughter I think and was serving humbly and staying out of trouble. I fear he’ll just get himself into trouble again...

[mdmathis6]

I think you meant to add the “sarcasm tag”...I hope?

[GOPJ]

Yeah - actually Jesus threw the money changers out of the Temple... great story - it’s in Matthew - chapter 21 - verse 12.

[boatbums]

Mr. Haggard’s talk of “everyone’s sin condition” implies that personal repentence of actual sins for which he is personally responsible isn’t really on the agenda. He didn’t do anything wrong ... it’s just that there are all these judgmental people making him feel bad about being himself.

I couldn't agree more. The threadbare excuse that all people sin is such a useless answer to real, true repentance. Sure everyone sins, but is there no difference between snapping at your spouse and committing adultery with another of the same sex along with drug abuse??? C'mon! The guy was a pastor of a very large and influential church and he was exposed very publicly - as anyone who commits gross sin in secret should realize God promises he will do.

How would it look to the world to reinstate the guy to his previous place of responsibility as if the acts he had done were minor issues? I know I would not go to his church. Someone who is genuinely sorry for their sins does not try to rationalize it nor do they try to escape the moral consequences of it. He made his bed and he sure sounds like he needs to lie in it some more.

[wardaddy]

because Ted...you are a cash hungry typical TV evangelist husckster who makes us all look like silly hypocrites..yet another socially conservatibe Christian mouthpiece who when no one is looking is a freak ( The Grahams excluded as the rare TV preachers worth a darn)

and you place a man's penis in your mouth and God only knows where else and defiled yourself and your family...especially your wife

and there is the meth allegation too

you sir are a disgrace..go find something else to do..in obscurity

Woods was not a preacher..not even a believer..some Eastern mumbo jumbo I think... and was only a whoremongering cheater...never been a shortage of either end of that equation

God has a scalding hot waiting bench for these asshats...Ted, Swaggert, Oral send me the money, Reverend Ike, Sharpton, Jim Baker, all the freaks here and there posing as real Godly folks...they make me puke....very few preachers on TV are even worth the urine it would take to put them out if on fire

i’m a grown man..i know crap when i see it...most of this garbage is hype...show me the money...some flashy megachurches, tv and preachers in big houses, private jets, rolex watches.. trophy power wives..I loathe it all

they are no different than corrupted Popes of medieval lore like Borgia

it's a shame

give me an old time fire and brimstones simple Godly man anyday..are there any left?...and don't get me started on self impowerment and material positivism being mixed with God's word...man...I despise all that..and we know the toothy lad and his wife I'm talking about

[Tax-chick]

... but is there no difference between snapping at your spouse and committing adultery with another of the same sex along with drug abuse???

He would like us to believe that, because all sin offends God, all sins should be regarded as exactly the same by the church. This is the Left's reasoning. (I'm reading "Rules for Radical Conservatives" right now, and it explains how they want to cloud our judgment and derail our common sense.)

Anyone can see that, simply as a matter of worldly prudence, putting a drug user who frequents male prostitutes in a position of responsibility is idiotic. He's got serious psychological problems, not just, "I shouldn't have yelled at my neighbor when his dog dug up the flowerbeds."

[boatbums]

That sounds like an interesting book. I’ll check it out.

[Tax-chick]

David Kahane is the author; not his real name. He writes satire for National Review that is often taken as straight writing by readers on FR! Excellent vocabulary, too. The book is depressing, so far, because his analysis of how the left took over is spot-on, and I haven’t reached the part where he tells us how to fight back effectively.