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Weeping and Other Hysterics: Have Muslim Apologists Nothing More to Offer?
netwmd.com ^ | March 14, 2011 | Raymond Ibrahim

Posted on 03/14/2011 4:54:16 PM PDT by forty_years

Indeed, arguing that "suit-and-tie" Islamists have penetrated Western societies and are manipulating the legal system to their advantage -- including by imposing aspects of Islamic law, winning special privileges for themselves, and, of course, shutting down criticism of Islam -- Daniel Pipes has singled out Ellison as representing a far greater threat to Western civilization than Osama bin Laden. ...

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TOPICS: Apologetics; Islam; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: accusations; ellison; jihad; speech
Why should Islamists use guns when they can use our own useless idiots against this great nation?
1 posted on 03/14/2011 4:54:20 PM PDT by forty_years
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To: forty_years
Patton's description of the “Hun” applies to muzzies as well: They're either at your throat or groveling at your feet.
2 posted on 03/14/2011 5:05:49 PM PDT by Panzerlied ("We shall never surrender!")
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To: forty_years

True and the apologist for the Islamist death cult have no conception of Taqiyyah so they are suckers for the BS that comes from the mouth of people like Ellison.

Here’s a good critique of Ellison’s dishonesty from Logan’s Warning:

Last night on the Bill Maher Show, Congressman Keith Ellison, (Democrat – Minnesota) made the following statement. “It’s out of context”, he told Maher, claiming that the translations are wrong. How many times have we heard these IslamiCONs before? He provides no evidence whatsoever to back up his claims, so why would anyone believe them?!

As you witnessed, Ellison brought up the subject of Koran verse 5:32, but he conveniently left out its most important element, namely the part about “spreading mischief” in the land.

Koran verse 005.032
YUSUFALI: On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person – unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land- it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our messengers with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land.

While the verse says it was ordained for the Children of Israel, the “spreading mischief” part in actuality pertains to Islamic Law. It is called “fasad”, which means that, under Islamic Law, a person can be killed for “spreading mischief”. Which can be loosely construed to mean just about anything…

Merriam-Webster Dictionary-mischief

3 a : action that annoys or irritates

The CONgressman also referred to Koran verse 2:256.

Koran Verse 002.256
YUSUFALI: Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things.

What he failed to mention is that if non-Muslims do not convert to Islam, Muslims are to fight them until they are extorted and dominated.

Koran Verse 009.029
YUSUFALI: Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

Sorry, Keith, you are obviously trying to cover for Islam’s ugly truths.

On this site you FAIL! I am now inviting you to prove me wrong…

Link here: http://loganswarning.com/2011/03/12/my-challenge-to-congressman-keith-ellison/


3 posted on 03/14/2011 5:09:18 PM PDT by CharlesMartelsGhost
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To: forty_years

Stage 1:
Start immigrating - move into a country quietly

Stage 2:
Begin starting churches: “learning centers”
community helps: food etc.

Stage 3:
Political activism: demanding rights, denounce
derogatory comments/press etc.

Stage 4:
Get elected, pass laws favoring rights etc. move toward
political majority

Stage 5:
Political control, Sharia Law


4 posted on 03/14/2011 5:31:28 PM PDT by svcw (You will never understand Grace until you understand you do not deserve it)
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To: forty_years
Have Muslim Apologists Nothing More to Offer?

Nothing that doesn't explode.

5 posted on 03/14/2011 5:35:48 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: Panzerlied

That was Winston Churchill who said that. “The Hun is either at your throat or at your feet’’.


6 posted on 03/14/2011 5:44:33 PM PDT by jmacusa (Two wrongs don't make a right. But they can make it interesting.)
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To: jmacusa

WINSTON CHURCHILL ON ISLAM - IN 1899!

“How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries!
Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia
in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many
countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods
of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet
rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the
next of its dignity and sanctity.

The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as
his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must
delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased
to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid
qualities - but the influence of the religion paralyses the social
development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists
in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and
proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa,
raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity
is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it
had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell
the civilization of ancient Rome.”

-Sir Winston Churchill (The River War, first edition, Vol. II, pages
248-50 (London: Longmans, Green & Co., 1899).

HERE IS ANOTHER QUOTE:

“To me it seems certain that the fatalistic teachings of Muhammad and the utter degradation of women is the outstanding cause for the arrested development of the Arab. He is exactly as he was around the year 700, while we have kept on developing”

— General George S. Patton: The War as I Knew it, 1974, p.49


7 posted on 03/14/2011 6:48:04 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks.)
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