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St. Patrick: One of the Greatest Missionaries Who Ever Lived
Resurgence ^ | 03/17/2011 | Mark Driscoll

Posted on 03/18/2011 10:33:12 AM PDT by RnMomof7

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I am a huge fan of Patrick ... I wanted to honor him this St Pats week end
1 posted on 03/18/2011 10:33:22 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: 1000 silverlings; metmom; boatbums; Quix; Gamecock; Alex Murphy; Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD; ...

An Irish ping a day late, but always on time :)


2 posted on 03/18/2011 10:34:45 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
Yes! He invented the wheelbarrow...

It was the only way he could get us Irish to walk on our hind legs!

3 posted on 03/18/2011 10:37:55 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: RnMomof7
I've read that Patrick and Arthur lived in more or less the same time period...just after the Romans withdrew from Britain.

I find that interesting.

4 posted on 03/18/2011 10:38:20 AM PDT by what's up
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To: RnMomof7

Thanks for the history lesson. I was aware of some of this. A fascinating man who lived in a fascinating time!


5 posted on 03/18/2011 10:39:46 AM PDT by mlocher (Is it time to cash in before I am taxed out?)
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To: RnMomof7

Do you notice that it is the Christian worldview that restrains sexuality....to make it a sin to copulate with anything, anybody and animals.

That is what happened in the Roman empire. It is what Judaism did—outlawed the pagan incest and orgies, and vile, inhumane use of the body (homosexuality) which led to barbarism and no civility or respect for human beings....esp. children and women.

That is what Marxist worldview is trying to recreate....remove all restraint on the sex drive. (Marcuse—who designed a Freudian/Marxism curricula to destroy morality in children in the schools). It is to create chaos and barbarism....an underclass which will be easy to enslave since they are only concerned and enslaved by their passions and nothing else.

It is why Christianity is the rock of Western Civilization and led to the most successful, creative, free cultures in the history of the world. Worldview is everything. Read Dalrymple’s Life at the Bottom...the Worldview that makes the underclass.

Postmodernism....(Marxism) is nihilism and destroying civility, to create an underclass of non-thinking, copulating, narcissistic irresponsible, unproductive drudges. Nietzsche was so correct about mankind and his prediction of Hitlers for the future when he declared, “God is Dead”.


6 posted on 03/18/2011 10:53:48 AM PDT by savagesusie
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To: RnMomof7
Revisionist history? St. Patrick was a Catholic bishop who was sent to Ireland on the direct command, and by the authority of, Pope St. Celestine I of Rome. Before that, he was also a protege and disciple of St. Germain of Auxerre, with whom he went on a Papally-authorized mission to Britain to oppose the heresy of the Pelagians.

As far as him running afoul of the "Roman Catholic church" ... he was the Roman Catholic church in Ireland for much of his career.

8 posted on 03/18/2011 11:08:11 AM PDT by Campion
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To: RnMomof7

The What Does the Prayer Really Say blog yesterday included a stirring/beautiful/powerful podcast reading of the Breastplate of St. Patrick prayer, a prayer I was unfamiliar with but have since looked up. I can’t believe there is so much wealth in the Church which seems to stay stored up in the attic simply so the rooms below might seem more open and spacious and modern. I know many people might be skimming past reading this thread since it is the day after St. Patrick’s Day and thoughts are turned elsewhere, but please go listen to the podcast of the prayer today when you have time to really listen.


9 posted on 03/18/2011 11:14:16 AM PDT by Coyote Choir
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To: RnMomof7

His mission in Ireland, by way of his successors (St. Columba and the other “12 Apostles of Ireland”), led to re-Christianizing Britain and Continental Europe after pagan barbarian invasions of the fifth century pushed the Roman Church back to the gates of Rome.


10 posted on 03/18/2011 11:18:48 AM PDT by katana
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To: RnMomof7

Patrick’s glories are more than parochial, or even pre-national. Read Thomas Cahill’s How the Irish Saved Civilization for an eye-opening story of the ultimate fruits of Patrick’s labors. http://www.amazon.com/Irish-Saved-Civilization-Hinges-History/dp/0385418493/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1300472271&sr=1-1


11 posted on 03/18/2011 11:27:31 AM PDT by earglasses (I was blind, and now I hear...)
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St. Patrick’s Breast-Plate

I bind to myself today
The strong virtue of the Invocation of the Trinity:
I believe the Trinity in the Unity
The Creator of the Universe.
I bind to myself today
The virtue of the Incarnation of Christ with His Baptism,
The virtue of His crucifixion with His burial,
The virtue of His Resurrection with His Ascension,
The virtue of His coming on the Judgement Day.
I bind to myself today
The virtue of the love of seraphim,
In the obedience of angels,
In the hope of resurrection unto reward,
In prayers of Patriarchs,
In predictions of Prophets,
In preaching of Apostles,
In faith of Confessors,
In purity of holy Virgins,
In deeds of righteous men.
I bind to myself today
The power of Heaven,
The light of the sun,
The brightness of the moon,
The splendour of fire,
The flashing of lightning,
The swiftness of wind,
The depth of sea,
The stability of earth,
The compactness of rocks.
I bind to myself today
God’s Power to guide me,
God’s Might to uphold me,
God’s Wisdom to teach me,
God’s Eye to watch over me,
God’s Ear to hear me,
God’s Word to give me speech,
God’s Hand to guide me,
God’s Way to lie before me,
God’s Shield to shelter me,
God’s Host to secure me,
Against the snares of demons,
Against the seductions of vices,
Against the lusts of nature,
Against everyone who meditates injury to me,
Whether far or near,
Whether few or with many.
I invoke today all these virtues
Against every hostile merciless power
Which may assail my body and my soul,
Against the incantations of false prophets,
Against the black laws of heathenism,
Against the false laws of heresy,
Against the deceits of idolatry,
Against the spells of women, and smiths, and druids,
Against every knowledge that binds the soul of man.
Christ, protect me today
Against every poison, against burning,
Against drowning, against death-wound,
That I may receive abundant reward.
Christ with me, Christ before me,
Christ behind me, Christ within me,
Christ beneath me, Christ above me,
Christ at my right, Christ at my left,
Christ in the fort,
Christ in the chariot seat,
Christ in the [deck],
Christ in the heart of everyone who thinks of me,
Christ in the mouth of everyone who speaks to me,
Christ in every eye that sees me,
Christ in every ear that hears me.
I bind to myself today
The strong virtue of an invocation of the Trinity,
I believe the Trinity in the Unity
The Creator of the Universe.

12 posted on 03/18/2011 11:35:34 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: earglasses

Dittoes for “How the Irish Saved Civilization”

Ironic after reading the description of the barbarians prior.. :)


13 posted on 03/18/2011 11:37:36 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: RnMomof7

Thanks for bringing up. No matter what view of St Patrick. It certainly is not a Irish holiday only for an excuse to drink excessively. It is at it’s real core a Christian Holiday for all. If we were all like St Patrick the flesh, The world and the devil would Tremble. Thanks for open discussion. I have learned Free Republic should represent Free Open exchange for sharing our thoughts on a subject with respect for all. This is great for a discussion. Thanks again!


14 posted on 03/18/2011 12:46:43 PM PDT by johngrace (God so loved the world so he gave his only son! Praise Jesus and Hail Mary!)
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To: RnMomof7
I have read at times about St Patrick.

One that really stands out was the Celtic King who told St Patrick if he can raise his dead king father from the dead he will believe and make sure others do believe. He told the king he will pray on it. Well Patrick fasted and prayed all night went to the shoveled up grave of the Former King. He rebuked death and the man came alive from hell to tell his son that everything Patrick said is true. Then he (the former King) asked Patrick to be saved. He then died in Glory in front of the son.

No matter what that's some story!

15 posted on 03/18/2011 1:00:14 PM PDT by johngrace (God so loved the world so he gave his only son! Praise Jesus and Hail Mary!)
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To: RnMomof7

I don’t know why the writer says Patrick isn’t a saint. He is on the calendar and we observed his commemoration on 3/17. He has a “proper” reading and prayer in my breviary. It doesn’t get much more official than that.


16 posted on 03/18/2011 1:23:14 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: RnMomof7

That’s an interesting bit of history which I never heard before.


17 posted on 03/18/2011 1:41:49 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Campion
Revisionist history?

Actually, the evidence that Patrick made it to Rome to be commissioned by the Pope is rather sparse (this was the beginning of the (so-called) "Dark Ages" after all)--which many historians don't accept as authentic.

Celtic Christianity too, did differ on the holidays, and other customs (which were considered very important) and was not seen by Rome to be in obedience until the 600s, 200 years AFTER Patrick. The Celtic monasteries even sent their own missionaries, NOT under the supervision of Rome down into Germany, Poland, France, and even northern Italy. These monasteries and missionaries were not brought under the supervision of Rome until St. Boniface in the 700s.

The idea of Patrick as a compliant Bishop sent from Rome appears to be itself a later medieval historical revision...

19 posted on 03/18/2011 2:49:07 PM PDT by AnalogReigns
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There was no formal canonization process for Saints, as we have today, in this early period. A person just needed to be locally known as a godly Christian example to be regarded as a “Saint.”

If you look up other Celtic Christian notables, virtually all of them are called “Saints” and are folks generally we’ve never heard of (thought about St. Willibald recently, or raised a glass to St. Briget?) unless you’re an historian of Celtic Christianity.

Patrick is regarded as a Saint in the traditional sense...but, he went through no formal canonization (the 2 miracles, and other requirements to be approved of by Rome) which is what Driscoll was referring to.


20 posted on 03/18/2011 2:59:22 PM PDT by AnalogReigns
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