Posted on 03/18/2011 10:33:12 AM PDT by RnMomof7
Indeed we that have some Irish in us should look at the real meaning of the work of Patrick . It is not about dark beer and corned beef.. (although I like both.. ) it is about the gospel going forth
He was a man of God that converted a nation of heathens.. (yea my ancestors:)
His given name was Maewyn Succot. He became known as Patrick later, perhaps after death. He was a humble and truly devout servant of God, of that this Protestant has no doubt.
Great info AR ... Catholics think Church history started with the rule of Rome.. there was certainly Christian history before there was a papacy or a strong Rome
And indeed Patrick was a saint in the biblical sense ...
Yeah. That was kind of my point. A canonization process wasn’t always the way to be “official”.
I never knew that... Thanks
You know the old wives tale that he drove the snakes out of Ireland.. I think of Christ promise to the apostles in Matthew that they would pick up serpents . Patrick was a man of God ..
I have never researched if there was an official canonization of the apostles ....Don’t know and it does not matter.
God set forth the criteria for sainthood.. and that was believing in the gospel . There are many that have lived lives that evidence their faith in Christ as Lord and Savior ... if it is good enough for God.it is good enough for me :)
Happy St Pats day MD
Well, yeah.
From our POV, there are a lot more Saints than are on the calendar. That’s one reason for “All Saints Day”: it’s the “for those we didn’t mention or don’t know about” day.
I think the main reason for an “official” list is assurance. I mean, suppose some folks were celebrating “St. Pelagius” or “St. Arius”. That might lead somebody else to wonder. So there is a mechanism to provide some kind of assurance.
I’m spitballing. But that’s my guess.
Today we celebrate Holy Joseph. Now THERE is a GUY!
When you celebrate all saints day..you are celebrating all those that have Jesus as Lord..including me :)
Thank you for the link to “Confessio.”
Here is “Letter To Coroticus”:
http://www.irishchristian.net/history/stpatrick/coroticus.html
Sounds a bit reformed huh?
“Warning, this post has nothing to do with religion, and everything to do with bigotry. All Catholic and Orthodox Catholic posters, as well as all Christians of good will, are advised to avoid such threads as they are here to generate hate, not the love of Christ.”
http://www.americancatholic.org/Messenger/Mar2001/Wiseman.asp#F4
For most of Christianity’s first 1,000 years, canonizations were done on the diocesan or regional level. Relatively soon after very holy people died, the local Church affirmed that they could be liturgically celebrated as saints.
That was the case with St. Patrick, whose feast has not been dropped from the Church’s universal calendar. Because it usually falls on a weekday during Lent, the opening prayer at Mass can be for St. Patrick, but everything else comes from the Lenten weekday prayers.
Many have heard more than just an echo. Made himself bishop, predestinated by God. He understood repentance to be more than doing penance. The Church he established, the Irish Church, was independent of Rome for centuries, and then was brought back in, the inverse of the Reformation, but certain themes do resound.
It’s often difficult to sort out the truth of the matter, what with there being so much desire to claim Patrick, such a clearly devout man who made such a difference in the world, far beyond Ireland and long after he left it. That’s why I rely upon the only two documents clearly authored by him, the two we have linked here, “Confessio” and “Letter To Coroticus.” The rest would appear to have been revised or embellished to me. Translations from Patrick’s vulgar Latin tend to vary in favor of one side or the other, too, with either one being arguably correct.
How is this hate Sal? One may not agree..but that is what forums are for...
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