[ReverendJames]

"144K are the ones to preach the Gospel after the Rapture of the Church....

Some facts about the 144,000 from Revelation 7 and Revelation 14 give us insight regarding their identity.

• They are called the children of Israel (Revelation 7:4). Their tribal affiliation is specific (Revelation 7:4-8).
• They seem to be protected and triumphant through the period of God’s wrath, meeting with Jesus at Mount Zion at His return (Revelation 14:1).
• They are celibate (Revelation 14:4).
• They are the beginning of a greater harvest (Revelation 14:4).
• They are marked by integrity and faithfulness (Revelation 14:5).
• Taken together, these facts make it difficult to say that the 144,000 are a symbolic picture of the church.

[TaraP]

They are the 12 tribes of Israel.....

Jesus said he would come *Like a Thief in the night* so keep watch...

To me this just commands a bit of common sense...

How would one know a thief might be breaking in there home?

They might hear an opening of a door, or maybe a window opening...

They hear..They respond...

If you ignore what happens?

The thief takes what he wants and leaves, and you arise to find that you have been *left* with nothing....

[GiovannaNicoletta]

What part of Scripture indicates that the 144,000, whom God specifically states are 12,000 men from each of the twelve tribes of Israel, are to be allegorized?

Can you cite the part of Scripture which states that the very specific explanation of who these people are isn't to be taken as God described them, but are to be allegorized into actually meaning the church?

Thanks.