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To: Gamecock
You can also read this:
WHY THE PCA IS NOT A DULY CONSTITUTED CHURCH

and Why Faithful Christians Should Separate From This Corrupt "Communion"

Oh, and I understand that the OPC considers the PCA to be borderline close to heretics (since the OPC view is anyone who doesn't worship Gresham Machen with them is a heretic)

what differentiates you PCA types from the OPC?

  1. Do you PCA types believe that Charismatic gifts (healing, talking in tongues) is still possible today?
  2. Do you PCA types have a liturgy?
  3. does the PCA have drama in its services?
  4. Does the PCA have liturgical dance in its services?
  5. Does the PCA like the OPC deal with dissent in a back-room manner?
  6. Do you allow singing with guitars, choirs etc. or just psalms?
  7. Do you hold to a literal 6 day creationism view?

What about the PCA view of Jews, Methodists, Pentecostals? Do you deny that the PCA just like the OPC considers these to be damnable heretics?

Is it true what they say about the PCA that

the PCA has the following beliefs (as shown on it's website www.pcahistory.org)

  1. A disbelief in the literal meaning of Genesis (there's a long-winded statement there, quite typical)
  2. A belief that many if not most miscarried and abortion victims (babies killed) go to hell,
  3. A belief that Methodists and Pentecostals are damnable heretics
  4. A belief that only Calvinism is pure Christianity
  5. A belief that sharing a meal with Jews as on Seder etc. is not only wrong but a horrendous sin (latent anti-semitism)
  6. A belief that Pentecostals are on the verge of if not already not Christians

Among many other strange beliefs.

As the PCA has grown, there are more cases of abuse, of money extorted etc. This sub-group is heading for having homosexual practising pastors living in "partnerships".

and what do you say to the OPC types who would say that

The PCA is no more than an extension of the PCUSA

It lures folks in and will soon reveals itself as

the Pinko C in America


6 posted on 03/28/2011 4:35:28 AM PDT by Cronos (Palin: 2012)
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To: Cronos

http://www.catholicmil.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1645:chaplain-piontkowski&catid=34:chaplain-testimonies&Itemid=70

CH Piontkowski in Iraq

Written by Spc. Zane Craig

Sunday, 02 January 2011 23:20

JOINT BASE BALAD, Iraq - With the candles lighted on the altar, making the gold crucifix nearby shine, a transformation took place as a soldier in the Army Combat Uniform dons his vestments; first the white alb, then the stole, and finally the purple chasuble, becoming a priest of the Roman Catholic Church.
Lt. Col. Richard Piontkowski, deputy command chaplain with the 103rd Sustainment Command (Expeditionary), and a Grand Island, Neb., native, is one of nine Roman Catholic chaplains in Iraq ministering to the spiritual needs of more than 10,000 Catholic service members in Iraq.

In addition to the dual role of soldier and priest, Piontkowski serves in two roles as deputy command chaplain: as an administrative role that can be filled by any chaplain of his rank, and as pastor to all the Catholics in his sector, a spiritual role that can only be filled by an ordained priest.

“Part of being the deputy command chaplain is that you’re pastor to all the soldiers, no matter what their belief system is,” said Piontkowski. “Whoever comes in, for whatever reason, that’s your soldier.”

Piontkowski said that his main concern as a Catholic pastor is for the soldiers in his care to receive the sacraments.

There are two other priests stationed at Joint Base Balad, Iraq: one in the Air Force and one in the Army, equaling approximately one third of all the priests in Iraq. This concentration allows them to take turns traveling to remote bases that lack a full-time priest to say mass and administer the sacraments.

Piontkowski and Master Sgt. Kevin Zavala, master chaplain assistant with the 103rd ESC, and a Necedah, Wis., native, traveled to Contingency Operating Base Speicher, which has a large population of active Catholics but no resident priest, to lead the Christmas celebration.

“It’s good for all of us to be able to go to Mass because even if we can’t be with our families this year, we can celebrate with our military family here,” said Sgt. 1st Class. Willy Anderson, support operations non-commissioned officer-in-charge with the 394th Combat Sustainment Support Battalion, 103rd ESC, and a Dodge, Neb., native.

Piontkowski said attending Mass to celebrate Christmas during a deployment is like a little bit of home, something familiar and comforting. Approximately 100 service members and civilian contractors attended Mass at Liberty Chapel on Christmas Eve.

“It really helps to keep things in perspective; it’s a very calming influence,” he said. “It reminds them of times they were home with their families. Even if this year they can’t be with their families bodily, spiritually they can be.”

At home in the civilian world, Piontkowski is rector of the Nativity of the Blessed Virgin Mary Cathedral in Grand Island, Neb. Flexibility is the most important lesson he learned at the Cathedral that has helped him on his deployment so far, he said. Although this is his first overseas deployment, he was activated in 2004-2005 with the 89thRegional Readinees Command of Wichita, Kan., to deal with pre and post mobilization issues.

“I’m enjoying the deployment,” said Piontkowski. “It’s a good opportunity for me to help people and to learn a lot. “

He added that his judgment of an area is by people, never by place, and that the people he has met here, service members and locals, mostly interpreters and religious leaders have been great people.

“I’ve learned how I react to explosions, for one, and I’ve learned how this culture, which is so related to biblical times, how they look at history, including historical events occurring now, in such a non-Western way,” he said.

In addition to other duties, chaplains receive referrals from unit leadership of soldiers dealing with combat stress and other mental health challenges.

“I want someone dealing with suicidal ideation to see a mental health professional,” said Piontkowski. “I think as chaplains, we are more like first aid in these situations, but we are a bit more ubiquitous than combat stress specialists,” he said.

Nevertheless, as an experienced priest, there are few personal problems here Piontkowski hasn’t dealt with in his parishioners back home.

“My advice to soldiers here is, while you’re brushing up on your battle skills, it’s not a bad idea to brush up on your spiritual skills as well,” he said.

Despite the challenges of ministering to a congregation of thousands spread over an area as large as California, Piontkowski maintains an upbeat, jovial attitude and balances his many roles to effectively serve the soldiers entrusted to his care.


17 posted on 03/28/2011 5:37:25 AM PDT by Notwithstanding
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To: Cronos

Tuesday, January 4, 2011

Because These Catholic Chaplains Were Awarded the Medal of Honor

This photograph is for all of you who get really persnickety about the altar, vestments, and such ancillary things like that. This is Major Charles Watters, U.S. Army, celebrating Mass out in the field for the troops. The altar is a couple of ammo boxes sitting on top of two water cans.

Though there are no relics of saints embedded in this altar, what matters most, Our Lord and Savior, will be there with His men soon. I attended services just like this one, even when I wasn't a Catholic. Because beggars can't be choosers, see?

The beauty of the Mass isn't skin deep. Even if the surroundings aren't pleasant to the eye, God doesn't see as man sees. And these Catholic Chaplains bring Our Lord out to His troops just as surely as King David would have been at the front leading his.

Donald R. McClarey over at American Catholic wrote a blog post recently about Catholic Chaplains as observed by Lewis B. "Chesty" Puller, a legendary Marine who is revered by all Marines. I enjoyed his post and shared it with our readers via our Facebook page. Last January, I ran across a book at a friend's house about a Catholic chaplain who was awarded the Medal of Honor. Donald's post prompted me to do a little digging into this interesting and surprising finding.

What follows are the citations of the three chaplains from the Vietnam War who received our nations highest award for gallantry in combat—the Medal of Honor. There are only three of them and all three of them are Catholics. One has a cause for beatification in process, and one lived to receive his award and it seems he renounced it (the only person known to have ever done so), left the priesthood, and married a former nun and is an anti-war activist.

All chaplains are special and provide a much needed service to the soldiers, airmen, sailors and Marines whom they serve. As a Marine, and a non-Catholic Christian while I served, I had a huge amount of respect for the Catholic chaplains. They just seemed more gung-ho to me. Here are stories of three of the best who ever served.

Vincent R. Cappodano, Servant of God
Lieutenant, U.S. Navy, Chaplain Corps
3d Battalion, 5th Marines, 1st Marine Division (Rein)

Place and date:
Quang Tin Province, Republic of Vietnam, 4 September 1967
Killed in Action

Citation:


For conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty as Chaplain of the 3d Battalion, in connection with operations against enemy forces. In response to reports that the 2d Platoon of M Company was in danger of being overrun by a massed enemy assaulting force, Lt. Capodanno left the relative safety of the company command post and ran through an open area raked with fire, directly to the beleaguered platoon. Disregarding the intense enemy small-arms, automatic-weapons, and mortar fire, he moved about the battlefield administering last rites to the dying and giving medical aid to the wounded. When an exploding mortar round inflicted painful multiple wounds to his arms and legs, and severed a portion of his right hand, he steadfastly refused all medical aid. Instead, he directed the corpsmen to help their wounded comrades and, with calm vigor, continued to move about the battlefield as he provided encouragement by voice and example to the valiant Marines. Upon encountering a wounded corpsman in the direct line of fire of an enemy machine gunner positioned approximately 15 yards away, Lt. Capodanno rushed in a daring attempt to aid and assist the mortally wounded corpsman. At that instant, only inches from his goal, he was struck down by a burst of machinegun fire. By his heroic conduct on the battlefield, and his inspiring example, Lt. Capodanno upheld the finest traditions of the U.S. Naval Service. He gallantly gave his life in the cause of freedom.



Charles Joseph Watters
Major, U.S. Army, Chaplain Corps
Company A, 173d Support Bn, 173d Airborne Brigade

Place and Date:
Nov 19, 1967 - Hill 875, Dak To, Vietnam
Killed in Action


Citation:

For conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity in action at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty. Chaplain Watters distinguished himself during an assault in the vicinity of Dak To. Chaplain Watters was moving with one of the companies when it engaged a heavily armed enemy battalion. As the battle raged and the casualties mounted, Chaplain Watters, with complete disregard for his safety, rushed forward to the line of contact. Unarmed and completely exposed, he moved among, as well as in front of the advancing troops, giving aid to the wounded, assisting in their evacuation, giving words of encouragement, and administering the last rites to the dying. When a wounded paratrooper was standing in shock in front of the assaulting forces, Chaplain Watters ran forward, picked the man up on his shoulders and carried him to safety. As the troopers battled to the first enemy entrenchment, Chaplain Watters ran through the intense enemy fire to the front of the entrenchment to aid a fallen comrade. A short time later, the paratroopers pulled back in preparation for a second assault. Chaplain Watters exposed himself to both friendly and enemy fire between the 2 forces in order to recover 2 wounded soldiers. Later, when the battalion was forced to pull back into a perimeter, Chaplain Watters noticed that several wounded soldiers were Lying outside the newly formed perimeter. Without hesitation and ignoring attempts to restrain him, Chaplain Watters left the perimeter three times in the face of small arms, automatic weapons, and mortar fire to carry and to assist the injured troopers to safety. Satisfied that all of the wounded were inside the perimeter, he began aiding the medics--applying field bandages to open wounds, obtaining and serving food and water, giving spiritual and mental strength and comfort. During his ministering, he moved out to the perimeter from position to position redistributing food and water, and tending to the needs of his men. Chaplain Watters was giving aid to the wounded when he himself was mortally wounded. Chaplain Watters' unyielding perseverance and selfless devotion to his comrades was in keeping with the highest traditions of the U.S. Army.

Charles James Angelo Liteky
Captain, US Army, Chaplain Corps
HHC, 199th Infantry Brigade (Separate) (Light)

Place and Date:
Dec. 06, 1967 - Phuoc-Lac, Bien Hoa Province, RVN
Presented At the White House by President Lyndon B. Johnson on November 19, 1968

Citation:


Chaplain Liteky distinguished himself by exceptional heroism while serving with Company A, 4th Battalion, 12th Infantry, 199th Light Infantry Brigade. He was participating in a search and destroy operation when Company A came under intense fire from a battalion size enemy force. Momentarily stunned from the immediate encounter that ensued, the men hugged the ground for cover. Observing 2 wounded men, Chaplain Liteky moved to within 15 meters of an enemy machinegun position to reach them, placing himself between the enemy and the wounded men. When there was a brief respite in the fighting, he managed to drag them to the relative safety of the landing zone. Inspired by his courageous actions, the company rallied and began placing a heavy volume of fire upon the enemy's positions. In a magnificent display of courage and leadership, Chaplain Liteky began moving upright through the enemy fire, administering last rites to the dying and evacuating the wounded. Noticing another trapped and seriously wounded man, Chaplain Liteky crawled to his aid. Realizing that the wounded man was too heavy to carry, he rolled on his back, placed the man on his chest and through sheer determination and fortitude crawled back to the landing zone using his elbows and heels to push himself along. Pausing for breath momentarily, he returned to the action and came upon a man entangled in the dense, thorny underbrush. Once more intense enemy fire was directed at him, but Chaplain Liteky stood his ground and calmly broke the vines and carried the man to the landing zone for evacuation. On several occasions when the landing zone was under small arms and rocket fire, Chaplain Liteky stood up in the face of hostile fire and personally directed the medivac helicopters into and out of the area. With the wounded safely evacuated, Chaplain Liteky returned to the perimeter, constantly encouraging and inspiring the men. Upon the unit's relief on the morning of 7 December 1967, it was discovered that despite painful wounds in the neck and foot, Chaplain Liteky had personally carried over 20 men to the landing zone for evacuation during the savage fighting. Through his indomitable inspiration and heroic actions, Chaplain Liteky saved the lives of a number of his comrades and enabled the company to repulse the enemy. Chaplain Liteky's actions reflect great credit upon himself and were in keeping with the highest traditions of the U.S. Army.

There is one other Catholic priest that was awarded the Medal of Honor while serving as a chaplain in World War II. His name is Father Joseph T. O'Callahan, USNR. And there have been many others who served and died serving the sheep of Our Lord's flock. There is also cause for the beatification of Father Emil Kapaun, a chaplain who served during the Korean War. May the Lord bless them and keep them and have mercy on their souls.

Semper Fidelis.

13 comments:

Anonymous said...

I feel compelled to mention Fr. Timothy Vakoc. He died recently from injuries sustained from a IED blast in Iraq, returning from celebrating Mass for the troops on the 12th anniversary of his ordination. He was making significant progress in his recovery, but finally succumbed to his extensive injuries. I knew him personally and miss him dearly. As far as I know, he's the only clergy to have been injured in the course of this particular campaign.

Here are some links to his story:
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/183757/fr-vakoc/kathryn-jean-lopez
http://www.catholicmil.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=40&Itemid=183&limitstart=5

taad said...

"This photograph is for all of you who get really persnickety about the altar, vestments, and such ancillary things like that."

This is straw man arguement. Of course a priest can celebrate mass without an altar, and all the bells and whistles. No one is saying that. A surgeon can perform surgery in the street too. Does that mean you never need to worry about having an operating room. Your comment is flawed from the start. Sort of like the devil saying to Adam and Eve, surley God didn't mean..." Come on you can do better than this or use these men's bravery to attack the beauty of the Mass. Should the pope destroy St. Peters and have mass in the woods?

Frank said...

taad: Thanks for your comment. "Battle field expedient" is what my introductory remarks are meant to bring your attention to. They are not an argument to dismantle St. Peters,or make light of the divine beauty of the Mass, etc.

Frank said...

@Anon 9:05, thanks for that information on Fr. Timothy Vakoc.

Daniel Latinus said...

"Though there are no relics of saints embedded in this altar, what matters most, Our Lord and Savior, will be there with His men soon."

But the chaplain is probably using an antimension, an altar cloth used in the Eastern Rites, which contains the relics of the saints. During World War II, an indult was issued for Latin Rite chaplains to use the antimension for the celebration of Mass.

Aside from this persnickety quibble, the sacrifices and heroism of Catholic chaplains deserve to be better known. Thanks for telling their stories.

Fr. Emil Kapaun died as a result of intentional neglect in a Chinese prison camp during the Korean War. Historian T.R. Fahrenbacher, author of This Kind of War, reports not a single military chaplain survived Chinese or North Korean imprisonment.

Anonymous said...

As retired Army, I have a enjoyed a few "field expedient" Masses during my career. Having the opportunity to experience more important things while doing important things was always uplifting and humbling.
Recently in the process of doing an important thing, helping build young men of character on a Cub Scout camp-out, our scouts and their families were given a flavor of Mass in the field. One of our parish priests (a recently ordained one; a "second lieutenant priest" as my father affectionately refers to them) came out to the camp site to celebrate Mass on a Saturday night. Since most were not "hardened vets" like myself, the impact of Mass by a campfire (with scouts as servers at the "altar" and as lectors) on some of the adults was pretty significant. My prayer was/is that the young men will remember that Mass, to take time for the more important things while doing other things, and will remember the example of the young priest and his love for the Eucharist, to seek out the Body of Christ wherever he can be found - at any nearby church, around a campfire, or on a battlefield.
I like to think these events can be small parts in the formation of true heroes, men like those noted above- ordinary people doing extraordinary things.
Thanks for your blog post, Frank.

Donald Sensing said...

Came here from The Anchoress. Great piece! I am a retired Army artillery officer now serving as an ordained minister, so this post was very meaningful to me.

One word, however: Military people just hate it when someone is said to have "won" the Medal of Honor. It isn't obtained in a contest or a drawing. One earns or is awarded the Medal, and is thereby a "recipient," but never a "winner." Thanks, and keep up the good work.

Frank said...

Thanks for your comment Daniel and for the information on the antimension, which I was unaware of.

Frank said...

@Anon 10:50, your description of "experience(ing) more important things while doing important things" hits the mark. I think those young men will always remember the holiness of the Mass that you describe. My young Cub Scout experienced also the Flag Retirement ceremony on a campout as well, and I wished I had experienced that when I was his age too. Thanks for your comment.

@Donald: Yes! You are so right about these awards, and this ol' Marine plumb forgot that signal truth. Edited to reflect that and thanks again. Also, as an artilleryman, you will appreciate this post on St. Barbara.

Anonymous said...

Semper Fidelis! There is a reason the Roman Collar is a military collar.

William a sinner. Most unlearned. The Least of all the faithful… said...

Hurrah!!!

emwenz said...

I appreciate your viewpoint..there was link on this site to a blog, pointing out all the errors in ritual observed during the celebration of the mass at different venues. Initially amusing, I was struck that the blogger was completely focused on "spot the error" where ever she searched..the mass and all it had to offer was secondary to her eagle eyed drive to bring to light any deviation in the ritual of the mass. The battlefield is a unique place and needs must in that circumstance only; but sometimes, as a Catholic of certain age, I'm disheartened by the spirit evidenced, I believe, by that
blogger of errors, it's all around me. I'm looking for so much more. Know what I'm talkin'about?

Allison said...

Thanks for commenting, emwenz. I have had similar feelings. I in no way at all endorse a "clown mass," or any such obvious perversion of a Mass. Those kind of gross distortions of the Mass aside, said, but I also believe that sometimes we can err too much in obsessing over very small liturgical details and miss the purpose of a reverent Mass celebrated by a priest with a good, faith-filled heart.

I have been in parishes where ALL the pastor talked about in homilies was the need for absolute liturgical purity and I found that emphasis to be stifling to my spirituality. In other words, there are so many aspects to being a faithful Catholic and if we emphasize just one aspect, no matter how correct it might be, we can miss other equally important parts to our faith life.

(Likewise, I would not feel comfortable attending a parish where ALL that was spoken of was the need for social justice actions...)

I am not sure if I am being clear, but did want to add my personal views.

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24 posted on 03/28/2011 5:47:40 AM PDT by Notwithstanding
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To: Cronos

Not sure why you are spamming threads that I start with PCA information. I am not a member of the PCA.


43 posted on 03/28/2011 6:38:42 AM PDT by Gamecock (I didn't reach the top of the food chain just to become a vegetarian.)
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