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1 posted on 03/28/2011 11:01:20 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

Forgive me, but the good Cardinal preaching celibacy while the church is found to be repeatedly covering up the sexual exploits of the clergy is just a tad...ridiculous. The Cardinal and the church need to clean up the log in their eye before they go preaching about the speck in anyone elses.


2 posted on 03/28/2011 11:12:03 AM PDT by MeganC (NO WAR FOR OIL! ........except when a Democrat's in charge.)
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To: marshmallow
Celibacy is stupid.. not individual celibacy, but corporate celibacy..
An Attempt to make humans something they are not.. and will never be..
A dive down a groinal bunny hole..
3 posted on 03/28/2011 11:14:52 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: marshmallow
“We must not allow ourselves to become conditioned or intimidated by those who do not understand celibacy and want to change Church discipline. Rather, we must recover an enthusiastic awareness that celibacy challenges the mentality of the world and puts its secularism and agnosticism into crisis and cries out throughout the centuries that God is present.”

Sounds nice in principle.

In practice, however, the clerical celibacy doctrine has resulted in a creation of a safe haven for repressed homosexual pederasts, and a serious black eye to an organization that has done much more good in the world than it gets credit for.

Any reasonable person accepts the reality that the vast majority of priests are honorable men that take their vows and their calling seriously, but the small minority of perverts that hide behind the collar have done serious damage to the brand. If the choice is between ending the celibacy doctrine or allowing the Church to become marginalized due to its bad actors, I would hope common sense would prevail and priests would be allowed to marry, as they were in the Church's first millenium.

4 posted on 03/28/2011 11:19:27 AM PDT by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: marshmallow
“Poverty, chastity and obedience are not counsels reserved exclusively to the religious.

This is quite correct. Poverty, chastity, and obedience are to be observed, in different ways, by Christians in every state of life. There is a form of chastity appropriate to married people, and another that is appropriate to unmarried people.

5 posted on 03/28/2011 11:24:59 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Nadie me ama como Jesus.)
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To: marshmallow

Extolling the virtues of real losers. Poverty because
you’re too damn lazy. Celibacy because you’re not
acceptable to the opposite sex. Obedience because
you lack vision and leadership skills.

Too bad that old monk got distracted and forgot
to use the spelling checker. Celibate and celebrate
are very different outcomes.


7 posted on 03/28/2011 11:35:18 AM PDT by Myrddin
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