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To: verdugo

More baseless allegations.......


25 posted on 04/08/2011 4:30:49 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue
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To: surroundedbyblue
re: More baseless allegations.......

The book substantiates every allegation pointed out in the OVERVIEW that I posted. The author shows the striking contrast between unbroken totality of the perennial doctrines of the Church, tradition, and some of what EWTN teaches. At the conclusion of reading the book, any Catholic that still has the sensus fidelius will see.

I have however posted specifics in prior threads of EWTN: a Network Gone Bad, and no one on FR was able to refute them. Rather than bringing forward evidence and Catholic doctrine supporting EWTN’s actions, all that has come from FR Catholics is short complaints with personal opinions, BUT mostly what has come from FR Catholics, is unreasoned hatred, blind disgust, aroused against the persons (calling the author or I - sedevacantes, SSPXer, schismatic, heretic, excommunicated, not Catholic). This can be seen in all the postings generated by this thread so far. I can't read minds, I can only judge from what people write, and from the responses that I've been getting, it appears that the Catholics on FR do not know the faith, nor how to defend it.

Bishop Sheen once said that if you want to convince a pagan you use philosophy, if you want to convince a Protestant you use scripture, and if you want to convince a Catholic you use doctrine. Not only in this thread but in all the postings I have ever posted, it is a rare thing indeed to find an FR Catholic that posts doctrine in response to all the doctrine that I post.

from page 210
As I noted in the Overview, by Tradition is meant the totality of the perennial doctrine, dogma, liturgy and practice of the Faith, just as it existed with unbroken continuity at the start of the Second Vatican Council the way Catholics always believed and the way they always worshipped. As our experience since the Council has shown us, the so-called post conciliar revolution is nothing but an attack on Tradition.

The Progressivist Cardinal Suenens observed that Vatican II was “the French Revolution in the Church,” while the equally liberal Cardinal Congar likened it to the Russian Revolution of 1917. When an organization like EWTN partakes of the postconciliar revolution and its revolutionary spirit, and not only refuses to condemn its evils but actively promotes many of them, it will tend inevitably to regard as “enemies of the People” faithful Catholics, commonly known today as “traditionalists”, who have refused to embrace the revolution. And, indeed, the faithful Roman Catholic is a natural adversary of the post conciliar revolutionaries in the Church. For the Catholic, animated by love of the Faith, charity and a zeal for souls, instinctively opposes unheard of novelties that undermine Tradition and thus the integrity and mission of the Church, which is the salvation of souls. He does so because, as St. Pius X taught in Pascendi, he must do so if he is to be worthy of the name Catholic.

In an almost incredible reversal of the proper order of things, however, Catholics who adhere to this perennial Catholic attitude who conserve with devotion the heritage, doctrine, and practices of the Church, as they are enjoined to do by all Popes, Councils, Fathers and Doctors of the Church are now painted as ecclesiastical outlaws and even “schismatics,” while the revolutionaries and those who defend them hold themselves out as the guardians of sound orthodoxy. As in the world, now in the New Church of EWTN, evil is called good, and good evil.

This tactic of the unsubstantiated smear, so typical of revolutionary movements in political society, has now found its way into the Catholic Church. As Professor Philip Davidson observed in his monumental study of the use of propaganda in the American Revolution, the most effective way to attack the established order and justify rebellion is not “reason, or justice or even self interest, but hate. An unreasoning hatred, a blind disgust, is aroused not against policies but against people.” That is precisely what EWTN has done in the case of Father Gruner and other prominent defenders of the Church's doctrine, dogma, liturgy and traditional practice.

28 posted on 04/08/2011 6:38:54 AM PDT by verdugo ("You can't lie, even to save the World")
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