The molester isn’t here to be spoken to. I would THINK it might be obvious that I condemn molestation. If you can produce her, then I’ll be glad to have a little chat with her about the evils of sexual abuse. Until then, I have addressed someone who is present to be addressed about the evils of religious bigotry, though I’m chosing to ignore their other postings because frankly they are too steeped in hatred to be convinced of the wrong they’re doing. You might want to address the unChristian and unAmerican nature of religious bigotry too because my friend, it’s coming down to a struggle between the believers vs. the unbelievers in this world. But those who make themselves tools of Satan through religious bigotry want us to take our eye off the struggle we should be fighting-—against the tide of atheism and unbelief-—and focus it instead on fighting one another. That only benefits the Lucifer.
Interesting little speech.
You can build strawmen to your heart's content, but in essence it appears that you are trying to give a pass to the mormon church for the fact that two seperate bishops withheld information of pedophilia from law enforcement and child service officials because the wife of a prominent mormon was involved.
These folks are not here to minterogate, either, but their WORDS live on - NEVER having been retracted or apologized for.
ENJOY
Joseph Smith continues: "for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from 1:12). "What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (, p.270).Questions put to Joseph Smith: "'Do you believe the Bible?' [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'. When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'? [Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (, p. 119).Brigham Young stated this repeatedly: "When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" ( 5:73); "The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" ( 8:171); "With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" ( 8:199); "And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (, vol. 6, p.24); "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" ( 10:230).Orson Pratt proclaimed: "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (, p. 255).Pratt also said: "This great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (, vol.18, p.44) and: "But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (, 18:172).President John Taylor stated: "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (, vol. 6, p.167); "Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (, 10:127).James Talmage said: "A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (, p.182).President Joseph Fielding Smith said: "Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (, p.266). "For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (, vol. 3, p.282).More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear: "Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (, vol 3, p.265); "Thus the signs of the times include the prevailing apostate darkness in the sects of Christendom and in the religious world in general" (The Millennial Messiah, p.403); "a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (, p.132); "virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (, p.269); "Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (, p.316).President George Q. Cannon said: "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).President Wilford Woodruff stated: "the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (, vol. 2, p.196).
Oh, sure, you condemn molestation...but since when has this thread mentioned any "molester?"
ALL: Note how this poster, MissesBush, comes on this thread minus any condemnation of this repeat pedophile rapist...let's size up how she has referenced this repeat pedophile rapist:
* Post #2, sent. 2: One of those "people" who confesses "sins" [so repeated pedophile rape from a rapist is reduced to mere "sin" status]
* Post #2, sent. 3: Doesn't reference Brock -- as she talks about some hypothetical "criminal" -- "person committing a criminal act WOULD..."
* Post #3: No reference to Brock
* Post #20, sent. 1: MissesBush labels a repeat pedophile rapist as a "molester"...[more reductionism advocacy on her part]
* Post #20, sent. 2: She finally gets around to addressing "the evils of sexual abuse"
Then, instead of condemning repeat pedophile rapists, she takes out her venom on those who highlight such rapists...and the fact that the Mormon church in AZ could have pre-empted a whole year of such abuse had it acted...
ALL of her posts -- especially post #20 -- shows rampant & extreme intolerance of religious comments made by FReepers...all in the name of supposed "tolerance!"
If she was so tolerant herself, her words would show that...they don't...she shows the very religious bigotry she accuses others of...which means by her very own standard she becomes a "tool of Satan" revealed by how she engages in "fighting one another" -- other FReepers! If she was truly a tolerant person, she wouldn't be so intolerant of others' comments on this thread...
...She wouldn't engage in such a fighting stance with fellow conservatives...
...And she wouldn't go around calling people such highly inflammatory provocative language like "tools of Satan..."
Instead, she would model charitable behavior toward those religious vantage points she disagrees with...but she doesn't...and therefore reveals that by her words & post-actions.
Therefore, while she won't tolerate a few critiques of the Mormon church...she basically gives almost a condemnation-free pass of a repeat pedophile rapist...
Tell us, MissesBush...do you regularly engage in identity politics when it comes to Mormon criminals...or do you do this with repeat Pedophile rapists of all stripes?