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Where is the Outrage? (protestant pedophiles)
stop baptist predators ^ | 01-01-2011 | staff

Posted on 04/22/2011 10:27:57 PM PDT by bronxville

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To: boatbums
I'm Catholic and I don't see where we just point the finger at other churches to cover up our sins. There is a lot being done, especially at the local level diocese. I think the point of the OP was that there are those out there that want to bash the Catholic church at every turn when abuse is going on at a statistically higher level in their own backyard, or own churches and communities.

We all need to stop child abuse and Pedophiles. Some may take comfort in thinking “it's only those darn Catholics”. But that type of complacency is exactly what an abuser looks for.

41 posted on 04/22/2011 11:59:50 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: D-fendr; All

Forgotten Study: Abuse in School 100 Times Worse than by Priests
by LifeSiteNews.com
Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:15
By James Tillman and John Jalsevac

WASHINGTON, DC, April 1, 2010 (LifeSiteNews.com) – In the last several weeks such a quantity of ink has been spilled in newspapers across the globe about the priestly sex abuse scandals, that a casual reader might be forgiven for thinking that Catholic priests are the worst and most common perpetrators of child sex abuse.

But according to Charol Shakeshaft, the researcher of a little-remembered 2004 study prepared for the U.S. Department of Education, “the physical sexual abuse of students in schools is likely more than 100 times the abuse by priests.”

After effectively disappearing from the radar, Shakeshaft’s study is now being revisited by commentators seeking to restore a sense of proportion to the mainstream coverage of the Church scandal.

According to the 2004 study “the most accurate data available at this time” indicates that “nearly 9.6 percent of students are targets of educator sexual misconduct sometime during their school career.”

“Educator sexual misconduct is woefully under-studied,” writes the researcher. “We have scant data on incidence and even less on descriptions of predators and targets. There are many questions that call for answers.”
READ MORE...
http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/archive/ldn/2010/apr/10040101

The Education Department stats were 9.6% in 2004 per the article. I can’t find the link where a spokesperson stated a year or two ago that they expected the number to reach 10%. If the media or anyone in the DoE really cared about the kids they’d be investigating this up the ying yang, since they’re not, one can draw a conclusion - that they were targeting the Catholic Church which eventually filtered down to Protestant denominations but with less media hype.

There are links within on studies done on the rate of homosexuals and pedophilia...there’s actually a name for it but it eludes me...
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=13722


42 posted on 04/23/2011 12:01:29 AM PDT by bronxville (Sarah will be the first American female president.)
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To: boatbums
Avoiding gratuitous name-calling for one. Not lumping all people into one basket is another. Posting in a way that shows respect while at the same time not being afraid to oppose another's beliefs with reasoned and well thought out proofs.

What a hypocrite! Let's go back through your posting history, shall we?

43 posted on 04/23/2011 12:02:19 AM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: buccaneer81
I want it to be a non-bashing site with legitimate doctrinal arguments instead of the daily hate posted here.

Well, that would be peachy, however, what some people call "hate" is in reality doctrinal arguments for others. The general rule is that posts not contain profanity or personal attacks. No racism or violence either. The moderators are on board to see that those rules are followed. I think those rules are livable and try to abide by them.

44 posted on 04/23/2011 12:06:00 AM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: boatbums

Not fun to be caught on a thread where you’re outnumbered, is it? Welcome to the jungle. I’ve fought it out on OPC Catholic bashing threads 20-1. Put on your big boy pants here.


45 posted on 04/23/2011 12:06:40 AM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: MacMattico

Agree, the protective programs in the CC is so good it’s been used by Protestant denominations and other institutions. Where are these cretins going to now (other than home which is the major place it occurs)? It appears to be the schools as their numbers are escalating. So how do we get the media to investigate considering they’re in bed with the unions and homosexuals...


46 posted on 04/23/2011 12:09:30 AM PDT by bronxville (Sarah will be the first American female president.)
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To: antceecee

First link in google for Pastor Steve Gaines:
http://www.wmctv.com/story/5840120/controversy-simmers-at-bellevue-gaines-tells-congregation-he-will-stay?redirected=true


47 posted on 04/23/2011 12:10:49 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: MacMattico
Our church speaks very openly about child abuse and each grade level attends a class, once a year with their parents, to discuss on an age appropriate level what molestation and child abuse is and the importance of reporting it.

I think that is an admirable policy for any church to have. I think much of what has happened in the past could have been avoided but not all can be, sadly. It will take a concerted effort of awareness, openness, church discipline (with teeth) and placing the welfare of the children over the reputation of a church. I doubt any logical person would fault a church that discovered such gross sin and dealt with it properly. It would be welcomed!

48 posted on 04/23/2011 12:11:34 AM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: boatbums
what some people call "hate" is in reality doctrinal arguments for others.

I'm pretty sure Satan used that argument. He thought his greatest victory was today. Three days later he got the smack down.

49 posted on 04/23/2011 12:13:10 AM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: buccaneer81
Are you admitting you're a mouthbreather?

I have some seasonal allergies, if that is what you mean. :o)

50 posted on 04/23/2011 12:13:36 AM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: boatbums

Thanks and I agree with your advice.

What, however, is the answer to gross violations - which just creates more, exponentially? The classic flame war dynamic seems inevitable.

I’m stumped.


51 posted on 04/23/2011 12:15:51 AM PDT by D-fendr
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To: buccaneer81

My job is NOT to tell anyone how they should post. They are grown-ups. Besides, Jesus said you meet hate with love. Where’s the love? How about fighting perceived hate with kindness for a change? I’ve seen it work.


52 posted on 04/23/2011 12:17:17 AM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: MacMattico
We all need to stop child abuse and Pedophiles. Some may take comfort in thinking “it's only those darn Catholics”. But that type of complacency is exactly what an abuser looks for.

100% agree!

53 posted on 04/23/2011 12:19:02 AM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: buccaneer81
What a hypocrite! Let's go back through your posting history, shall we?

Have at it!

54 posted on 04/23/2011 12:21:02 AM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

How is that story equivalent nationally to what has been done to ANY story having to do with the Roman Catholic Church??? Get real! Not exactly viral is it? Be honest. Just as despicable... not as much media attention.... sorry... wasn’t a Catholic clergy member.


55 posted on 04/23/2011 12:23:27 AM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: buccaneer81

Got my big-GIRL pants on. Y’all don’t scare me. I know you’re all really sweet people inside. All bark, no bite.


56 posted on 04/23/2011 12:23:34 AM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: boatbums
I know you’re all really sweet people inside. All bark, no bite.

Think twice, unless you think your RM saviors will rescue you.

58 posted on 04/23/2011 12:29:25 AM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: D-fendr
What, however, is the answer to gross violations - which just creates more, exponentially? The classic flame war dynamic seems inevitable.

You put out fire with water, right? Adding more fuel just makes it worse. My husband was a firefighter. He said the first lesson they teach is, "Big fire, big water. Little fire, little water.". If someone is flouting the rules, don't join 'em. Step back and let them cool their jets. Be the voice of reason and maturity. I've seldom seen it fail as a strategy. Even the meanest bullies shut up when everybody ignores them.

59 posted on 04/23/2011 12:29:32 AM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: buccaneer81

Ain’t skeered!


60 posted on 04/23/2011 12:31:08 AM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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