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To: D-fendr
I was responding to a post that talked about the homosexual lobby infiltrating the Catholic Church with the intent of bringing it down, just like you said. My point was that it appears they were able to do exactly what they planned and the Church is paying the price for lax vigilance all those years. It is also true that this problem did not just start in the 1960's but was a very serious problem that went back over a thousand years ago as evidenced by St. Peter Damien's treatise Book of Gomorrah see here.

For a church that boasts of being the only true church Jesus Christ established in 33 a.d., it is puzzling how such gross evil can reach all the way to the Pope(s) - who claim to be Christ's representative on earth and have authority over all of Christendom. That's why I believe the actual church Jesus established is NOT a single man-made entity but a universal and spiritual body consisting of all those who place their faith in Jesus Christ as Savior. It doesn't make any sense that, in light of the victory of evil within many "Christian" denominations, that Jesus COULD have meant only one of them. Jesus prayed for us all and he clearly said that his church would be victorious over anything the devil threw in its path. It is and forever WILL be!

79 posted on 04/29/2011 11:28:44 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: boatbums
they were able to do exactly what they planned

Nope. We're still here. :) And still teaching the same Truth of Jesus Christ.

it is puzzling how such gross evil can reach all the way to the Pope(s)

The pope is not the Church. Puzzle solved!

And the struggle is bigger than Western Culture. It is also the war with the heresy of Islam that's been fought by the Church for over a millennium. The front lines today are stained with the blood of the Martyrs of the Church. Religious fads, movements, preachers, and pop churches come and go, but the gates of hell will not prevail against the Church. This is our promise from Our Saviour himself. The Church is called to martyrdom, various individuals and pockets of various confessions or no confession, come and go, rise and fall, become split-off and alone… they will be blown aside with the wind.

It doesn't make any sense that, in light of the victory of evil within many "Christian" denominations, that Jesus COULD have meant only one of them.

We're still here. Have been for 2,000 years and counting. Maybe Jesus was correct. :)

We disagree, friend, on the Church Jesus established; likely we've both seen all the arguments. But looking at it pragmatically as you seem to be here, well – after all this time –  we're still standing.

Thanks very much for your kind reply.

80 posted on 04/30/2011 12:02:02 AM PDT by D-fendr
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