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Presbyterian vote allows homosexual clergy, eliminates chastity standard
cna ^ | May 12, 2011

Posted on 05/12/2011 2:19:50 PM PDT by NYer

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To: ArrogantBustard
I count nine. See chart from Presbyterian Historical Society of Philadelphia:

If you count all that have ever existed, it's more like thirty. And that's just in the USA.

21 posted on 05/12/2011 3:20:39 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother
My dear Ministrix, please follow my link to Wiki(hah hah)pedia.

Count 'em.

11. Eleven. 9+2.

Even a tax lawyer wouldn't be able to follow that flow chart ...

22 posted on 05/12/2011 3:25:34 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: bcsco

As i have stated from day one. The Real Gay Agenda is to destroy the Church from within . They are getting very close to calling this a Victory.


23 posted on 05/12/2011 3:31:31 PM PDT by dbrew2u
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To: NYer

Unfortunately for anyone trying to be a Christian in PCUSA, the denomination’s method of defending traditional morality (table or return for further study proposals contrary to it, rather than killing them outright and denouncing their advocates as heretics) was doomed to failure by virtue of the “gambler’s ruin” phenomenon. They actually had a surprisingly good run — the “buggery’s not so bad, let’s ordain poofters” proposition had been being brought up and tabled or returned for study for a couple of decades.


24 posted on 05/12/2011 3:37:01 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: NYer

“I think it’s like letting black people come to white churches, or letting women become ministers. It’s inevitable.......LOL!!!!!


25 posted on 05/12/2011 3:40:42 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: NYer
If Sacred Tradition ... is ignored, then the alternative is that heretical popular doctrines of the day ... will start to be accepted by pastors and churches.

I would agree with you, with the only caveat being that the only sacred traditions are those commanded in scripture.

When Tradition sound doctrine accompanied by holy living is not present in a church, this is exactly what happens, (fixed)

The Catholic church has no shortage of traditions. Would you say there is also no problem of homosexuals in the pulpit?

26 posted on 05/12/2011 3:44:57 PM PDT by Gil4 (Sometimes it's not low self-esteem - it's just accurate self-assessment.)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

Those churches have abandoned the teachings of Christ and the apostle Paul and have adopted the book of liberalism where what is forbidden is subject to popular opinion.


27 posted on 05/12/2011 3:46:29 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Great googly moogly! I think I popped a blood vessel trying to read that chart. Who came up with that crazy thing?


28 posted on 05/12/2011 3:48:43 PM PDT by cothrige
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To: ArrogantBustard

Nah, I’ll decline, as I’m generally not interested nor inclined to get into denominational type discussions. All I’ll say is that it suffers from the same type of degenerate leadership, and is a domino waiting to fall. I certainly hope it doesn’t happen, but I’m mentally prepared for it, as I’ll immediately sever my lifelong, forty-year ties with the church then and there.


29 posted on 05/12/2011 3:49:01 PM PDT by greene66
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To: NYer

Once you severe branch from the tree, you never know what will grow.


30 posted on 05/12/2011 3:50:29 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (We kneel to no prince but the Prince of Peace)
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To: cothrige
Isn't it adorable?

It was perpetrated by the Presbyterian History Society of Philadelphia PA.

Clearly they don't have enough to do.

31 posted on 05/12/2011 3:54:26 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: ArrogantBustard
I gotcha . . . two new ones formed last week. (Well, not quite but pretty close. One of the new ones started up a couple years ago right down the road from us.)

Funny that Wiki (ahem) pedia has the same chart I found. I got it direct from the Presbys, though. It's an interesting website if you like church history. I wrote an article for the Alabama Historical Review on the history of Baptist congregations in SE Alabama, it actually was kinda fun sorting out all the various dissolving and recombining associations and groups. If you're obsessive/compulsive, maybe. :-D

32 posted on 05/12/2011 4:02:01 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: RatRipper

<< unbelievable - anything standing in the way now of any of the above?? >>

Nothing.

Once you get rid of chastity, all bets are off.


33 posted on 05/12/2011 4:02:29 PM PDT by heye2monn
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To: AnAmericanMother
Isn't it adorable?

Absolutely. LOL! It's simply fantastic.

34 posted on 05/12/2011 4:11:35 PM PDT by cothrige
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To: wagglebee

Churches that celebrate sin, PING


35 posted on 05/12/2011 4:27:56 PM PDT by a fool in paradise ("If Eric Holder had his way, O-B-L would still be alive today." Thank you President Bush for Gitmo.)
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To: cothrige
They 'splains it all for you here.

"Hmmmm . . . "

36 posted on 05/12/2011 4:30:07 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: 21twelve

Their reasoning on behalf of “teh gays” doesn’t explain why they would also support letting single male ministers bang a different woman every week with no hint of scandal.


37 posted on 05/12/2011 4:37:35 PM PDT by a fool in paradise ("If Eric Holder had his way, O-B-L would still be alive today." Thank you President Bush for Gitmo.)
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To: goodnesswins

I understand that. Neither is this the Orthodox Presbyterian Church (OPC). Both PCA and OPC broke off when the Gramscian Marxists infiltrated PCUSA. While PCA and OPC are separate denominations, they still fellowship and have stayed with scripture.


38 posted on 05/12/2011 4:41:18 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (All Hail the No Talent Pop Star pResident.)
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To: NYer

I have a different belief than most on this because I was raised Presbyterian. Presbyterians don’t like to be told who they can’t hire as a pastor. They resist central office type rules regarding their church.

But the liberals have been running the church for years and I’m surprised the PCUSA hasn’t started installing bishops.


39 posted on 05/12/2011 4:45:30 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: RatRipper

This is a joke, right?


40 posted on 05/12/2011 4:52:23 PM PDT by fwdude (Prosser wins, Goonions lose.)
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