To: Bed_Zeppelin
Dawkins saw how Craig wiped the floor with Hitchens - no wonder he’s chicken. Dawkins is incredibly weak on meaphysics and even the elementary rules of logic. Virtually none of the conclusions in “The God Delusion” follow from the premeses he uses. When one looks at the most brilliant apologists for atheism, Russel, Hume and Flew it becomes quickly appearant that Dawkins isn’t close to being in their class.
To: circlecity
How can anyone really be strong on metaphysics? Isn’t it really just someone’s theory? It’s not like anything metaphysical can really be proven, is it? I think one man’s theory about the unknown, is as good as any others.
19 posted on
05/17/2011 9:28:21 AM PDT by
stuartcr
("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
To: circlecity
When one looks at the most brilliant apologists for atheism, Russel, Hume and Flew it becomes quickly appearant that Dawkins isnt close to being in their class.
Interesting that you mention Russel; years ago I bought "Why I am not a Christian" by Russel, which I couldn't even read, as I recall it was just typical of an overeducated European blowhard. That may sound harsh since he is so revered, but as he made various points he did not even address what would be a theological response to each of his points. Very basic elements of theology, not finer points or obscure concepts. To me that simply is someone pretending to write a serious contention about a subject he was not knowledgable of.
Just more evidence for my personal view, IMHO, that between sometime in the 1800's and WWII many significant European intellectuals were seriously missing the point of their respective fields, very arrogant and yet mistaken in much of their thought (moreso than the overeducated normally do) and laying the groundwork, unwittingly, for both world wars.
To: circlecity
Flew really was brilliant. And he was/is anti-socialist, which I always loved.
His atheistic arguments were always really strong. I always thoroughly enjoyed his challenge.
And isn’t it interesting, that he is no longer an atheist? Again, Flew was always honest, truly intellectual, and really, very courageous. He went the way that his intellect told him to go, and he wasn’t afraid to work hard.
I respected him even when he was an atheist; I respect him even more now.
May the Lord bring Flew to full knowledge of him in this life.
To: circlecity
Didn’t Flew fly the atheist coop and change his mind?
38 posted on
05/17/2011 10:07:43 AM PDT by
HerrBlucher
("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." G.K. Chesterton)
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