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I find it strange that protestant belief is that God willed the saved to sin until some point where they seem to proclaim they are saved,yet are allowed and willed to sin afterward and still be saved

I'm not sure why you find this so strange. Isn't that what John states?

1Jn 1:7-10 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin. If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

Please note that John uses "we", including himself. Yet he fully realized that he was saved.

How do you reconcile that an unmovable God allows sin as part of His will with some and not others and not be moved from His essence ,which is love?

I'm not sure I understand your question. God allows sin for all of us-Christian or not. This does not move God from His essence which is love. It only allows us to recognized how evil we are.

Christians seem to have lost this concept-that we are evil. Only God is good. We would like to think that we are "good" since we are made in God's image. But this is Renaissance thinking and in error. The scriptures tells we are evil:

Mat 7:11 If you then, who are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask him!

Mar 10:18 And Jesus said to him, "Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone.

There you have it. Our Lord Jesus said only God is good (himself being God). Everyone else He tells us are evil. We need to pay attention to this for it helps us to understand our relationship with God and the Christ.

Do you actually believe that God predestined and willed Saint Paul to kill Christians?

Christians think too much in the here and now. They fail to think in terms of eternity. If a Christian is killed so what? They don't cease to exist. They move to a better life. So if God's will that Paul kill Christians so what? Those Christians have been martyred and now move into eternity richer for their reward.

Whatever our end, God works all things to our good. Nothing can hurt us that God doesn't have something better in store for us. And our end is predetermined to give us the rewards God would like to give us.

God allows sin for all of us-Christian or not. This does not move God from His essence which is love.

Than you agree with Catholic/Orthodox belief- that God does not WILL ANY sin to happen or He would be moved by Willing something other than love? I would find it very strange if you somehow believe that sin is a form of love willed by God

If a Christian is killed so what?

Be careful,hd. There are people who justify euthanasia and abortion by this kind of thinking