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To: kosta50
If the authorship is in quesiton, then what's in it is in question as well.

Well, obviously. But that wasn't the thrust of what you were trying to get over.

Hebrews 8:10-11 say there's no need for it. Yet, obviously there is...so somethings not right.

I don't think the passage you quote means that.

The Muslims, Jews and Hindus can do the same thing. The Hindu scriptures are older than the Jewish ones. And billions of people believe them, and have for milennia.

The Muslims and Jews certainly can do that - but that doesnt invalidate my argument. The Hindus don't really have scriptures as we understand the term, but I agree they are very old.

I have nothing against God. If he does intercede in people's lives then I have a lot to be thankful for. But I don;t know if he does does or not, if he exists or not.

Well, start at that point then. Ask Him to reveal Himself to you. If He exists, and you are serious in attempting to know Him, then He will answer.

But I do know that I have a buffet of people offering me their version of the Truth. To me they are all human stories full of holes, lacing in proof, or evidence, based on preconceived assumptions and influenced by cultures. In other words they are human creations, and will not submit my beliefs to a human. I don;t believe God needs "prophets" and 'preachers" to let people know who he is, if he is and what he is.

Not neccesarily. Sure there has been a Human cultural influence over these tales, but that doesn't neccesarily mean they are Human creations.

I appreciate that and I am glad that it works for you. My study leads me away from that belief. It's not necessarily what I set out to do when I started asking questions, but that's where I arrived. The real world is not how it;s described in the Bible. Period.

That last is a very definitive statement. I think in the Bible you can find the whole gamut of the Human experience, good and bad.

56 posted on 05/30/2011 9:26:41 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: Vanders9
I don't think the passage you quote means that.

Heb 8:10...I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts...11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me.

Seems pretty clear to me that they won't need anyone to tell them, for they shall know what God wants them to know.

Ask Him to reveal Himself to you. If He exists, and you are serious in attempting to know Him, then He will answer.

The Muslims and Jews certainly can do that - but that doesn't invalidate my argument.

I think it does.

Ask Him to reveal Himself to you. If He exists, and you are serious in attempting to know Him, then He will answer.

Reveal himself to you how? How do you know it's God? 2 Cor 11:14 "...even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light."

Not necessarily. Sure there has been a Human cultural influence over these tales, but that doesn't necessarily mean they are Human creations

Whose are they? Klingons'?

59 posted on 05/30/2011 12:36:25 PM PDT by kosta50
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