Posted on 05/25/2011 2:34:26 PM PDT by wmfights
John the Baptist was a prophet Jesus said so.
Where?
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?
Your skepticism of the persistence of prophetic gifts is ill-founded. First, your time-scale is a clearly bit off, even allowing examples in the Scriptures only: John the Baptist was most assuredly a prophet (calls to repentance, foretelling the baptism of the Holy Spirit, which prediction was fulfilled at Pentecost in the year of Our Lord’s Saving Death and Glorious Resurrection: very clearly the same gift as the prophets whose writing are included in the books of the Old Covenant).
More recently, there are many instances of prophecy to be found in the lives of the saints. St. Seraphim of Sarov, for instance, speaking at a time when the Russian Empire was at its height, clearly foresaw the Bolshevik Yoke coming upon Russia, when he spoke of the golden domes being pulled form churches, and the number of martyrs being so great the angels could scarce welcome them. St. John of Kronstadt, closer to the time, had similar prophetic visions about what was to befall Russia.
There have also been, and still are, clairvoyant elders who tell penitents their sins, rather than waiting to hear them confessed — note the classical prophetic role of bringing sinners to repentance through divinely given knowledge.
Of course, as to the topic of the present thread, plainly Mohammed was not a prophet — he did not call men to repent of their sins, but to wallow in them, with his sensual visions of “Paradise”, his permission for polygamy, use of slaves as concubines, exhortations to wrath, pride, rape, pillage, murder and the like — but then again, there is some dispute as to whether the Arabic word often Englished as “Prophet” should be rendered as “Prophet” or “Apostle”. (Of course, who sent Mohammed becomes clear when one considers the point I just made about his teachings.)
Post 18 Is Jesus speaking of John the Baptist “But what went ye out for to see? A prophet? yea, I say unto you, and more than a prophet.”
BOOK OF HEBREWS CHAPTER 1 1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things...
That clearly means that the age of prophets and direct communication with the spirit realm are over and that, henceforth, as Jesus noted, we are to know the spirit realm through faith.
John is called John the Baptist and not John the Prophet.
Jesus also said:
Mat 11:13 For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.
referring to himself as a prophet.
Yes, I learned about the Arab Christian tradition concerning Mohammed being a Christian missionary who went rogue, when I mentioned the German scholarly findings at coffee hour after Liturgy a few years back. Both a Copt and a Rum Orthodox from Jordan were quite insistent that they had always heard that Mohammed had started as a Christian missionary.
In the case of the Copt, a cynic might think attaching him to the Church of the East might be anti-Nestorian bias, but the Rum Orthodox (that’s what us Eastern Orthodox are called in the Middle East) learned the same tradition, and it’s supported by the linguistic analysis (passages of the Qu’ran being nonsensical Arabic, but perfectly good East Syriac).
No, it's merely drawing a contrast between God's revelation of himself to the Jewish people through the OT Prophets, and God's ultimate revelation of himself through Jesus Christ. Don't read more into it than it actually says.
1 Cor 12:28 says that God has appointed prophets within the Church. Acts 15:32 says that Judas and Silas were two such prophets.
Interesting. If true, that would mean that, when Belloc called Islam a Christian heresy, he was exactly right.
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There is no doubt as to the ungodliness of Islam. What would you consider worse, that Muslims remained Muslims or if they converted to Catholicism?
The Roman church doesn't kill Christians anymore. The answer is obvious.
Well, not since Constantine made it legal to be Christian, anyway.
Indeed. It is very interesting. Thank you so much for the heads up, dear brother in Christ!
> So how do you refute this?
Easy.
Contrast the life of Jesus with the life of Mohammed.
Mohammed was a pirate, a warrior, a pedophile, a polygamist, a rapist, a mass murderer, an executioner, a torturer, a thief, a liar, a truce-breaker, a kidnapper, a slave trader, a racist, a Jew-hater, an unspeakably cruel tyrant, and a genocidal savage.
He boasted of personally beheading between 600 and 900 Jews in one day.
The Koran promotes Mohammed as “Allah’s” prophet.
What’s that say about “Allah” and the Koran?
Belloc was not the first to be of that opinion. St. John of Damascus, who knew Islam intimately, having served as Grand Vizier to the Caliph of Damascus during one of those pragmatic periods when Muslim rulers cared more about competence than Islam, wrote the first Christian critique of Islam, and treated it as a heresy.
I am intrigued as to why you'd say Luke in particular would be considered the best Gospel for them. It's my favorite Gospel--- I read it to my father after he lost his sight. It seems to be the richest in Holy Spirit action. And a goodly amount of attention to women!
Very interesting. Incidentally, what’s the derivation of “Rum” Orthodox? Is it related to “Rom,” as in “Roman,” as in the Empire (Constantinople)?
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