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To: Godzilla

You are mixing TODAY’s practice with HISTORY which most Mormons denounced when they became citizens of the US. And, yes, I do know a little bit about Mormon practices and teachings. I know that there is much to admire about their family life, even if I do not believe their religion.

I would rather live next door to a Mormon family than to some FReepers who comment regularly here. I’m not going to comment further because I really do not like the ugly tone of this thread.


42 posted on 06/01/2011 11:45:40 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I cannot recall any lds denounce the lds past, I have seen many deny it happened.


51 posted on 06/01/2011 12:04:37 PM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I would rather live next door to a Mormon family than to some FReepers who comment regularly here
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*I wouldnt

Going to church next to one of their “stake” buildings waqs bad enough

When My children were small we lived in another state and when we came in from the parking lot the mormon children lined up along the fence would be encouraged by thge mormon adeults to tease our children

they would shout that our children were going to Hell because they were not mormons and other horrible stuff while the adults would laugh and egg them on

We ran a gurnlet every Sunday morning running into church

Our pastor went over to talk to the mormon bishop etc but he was cursed out and told so on

My little girl would scream with fear at the taunting of those nice neighborly mormons and they would sneer at her crying

What woulfd you have done if that was your little girl who loved the LORD Jesus Christ but was told repeatedly she was going to Hell because she wasnt a Mormon ???


56 posted on 06/01/2011 12:30:28 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: afraidfortherepublic
You are mixing TODAY’s practice with HISTORY which most Mormons denounced when they became citizens of the US.

Then you have a GROSS ignorance of history my FRiend as well as mormon teachings (contrary to your bleat).

Mormons were CITIZENS when Joseph Smith started violating the law of the land by starting polygamy.

Mormons were CITIZENS when prophet Wilford Woodruff issued the Manifesto in 1890 'ending' polygamy and allowing statehood to Utah. In reality, polygamy continued 'semi-officially' until about 1910 (and currently continues via FLDS).

Mormons were CITIZENS when smith established the illegal Kirkland Bank in Kirkland Ohio.

I would dare say mormons were citizens in 1927 when they removed the oath against the US Gov't.

Mormons were CITIZENS of the country throughout its history 'afraid' - and the foundations of their teachings promulgate even through the modern era - as I noted.

Even today, a requirement of membership is to get a testimony that joseph smith and the book of mormon are true. Even today temple mormons are being taught they are bound to be gods and goddesses - literally. Even today afraid, the predjudices of the past continue forward.

Again, we are not voting for your neighbor and your poor understanding of their doctrinal beliefs - we are voting for a president who's fundamental world view is shaped by the religion and teachings of joseph smith and mormonism. And that is a valid basis to evaluate him on - just like his supporters are even now touting his mormonism as a plus.

60 posted on 06/01/2011 12:56:10 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

When it comes to the Mormons, there is nothing BUT an ugly tone.


66 posted on 06/01/2011 1:04:15 PM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: afraidfortherepublic
I would rather live next door to a Mormon family than to some FReepers who comment regularly here.

Your preference has been noted.

72 posted on 06/01/2011 1:10:47 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: afraidfortherepublic; Godzilla
You are mixing TODAY’s practice with HISTORY which most Mormons denounced when they became citizens of the US.

Well, it's not quite as you described.

Utah became a state in the mid-1890s. Were they denouncing polygamy then?

No.

Many of their Mormon neighbors and Mormon family were still polygamists still living the polygamist lifestyle. When Mormons put up the polygamy caution sign in 1890, that didn't mean Mormon families-as-is split up.

They also persisted to a much smaller degree with plural unions. B. Carmon Hardy documents 260 such plural unions privately solemnized between 1890-1910. See his "Solemn Covenant" book appendix.

In 1898, Utah voters voted in Democrat B.H. Roberts as their Congressmen. Roberts was never seated as Congressman because 7 million U.S. citizens signed 28 banners delivered to Congress. They didn't appreciate the reality that Roberts had taken a third simultaneous wife in 1893. (That hardly sounds like Utah voters were "denouncing" Roberts' lifestyle)

Even in the 1960s, one Mormon poll said 40% of Mormons would re-adopt a polygamy lifestyle if their Mormon "prophet" told them to...and Lds "apostle" Bruce McConkie said that the Mormon Jesus would re-institutionalize polygamy upon return.

Does that sound like a full "denouncing" of polygamy? Hardly.

111 posted on 06/01/2011 2:14:15 PM PDT by Colofornian (Key Q for Romney & Huntsman: Show us your spirit-birth certificate from Kolob)
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