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To: Fido969
If a homosexual pastor has sex, and he isn’t married to his partner, is it “fornication”?

Why not? After all, if they are in "committed" relationships, thats all that matters, right?

"Committed" doesn't have a time duration -- can be committed for a couple of hours too... or even a few minutes

4 posted on 06/02/2011 7:09:27 AM PDT by Cronos (Palin, Cain, Jindal)
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To: Cronos; Fido969
Here is a relevant except from the excellent essay by Ronald G. Lee, "The Books were a Front for the Porn: The Truth About the Homosexual Rights Movement."

Although to this day [ex-Father John] McNeill, like all gay Christian propagandists, avoids the subject of sexual ethics as if it were some sort of plague, his life makes his real beliefs clear. He believes in unrestricted sexual freedom. He believes that men and women should have the right to couple, with whomever they want, whenever they want, however they want, and as often as they want. He would probably add some sort of meaningless bromide about no one getting hurt and both parties being treated with respect, but anyone familiar with the snake pit of modern sexual culture (both heterosexual and homosexual) will know how seriously to take that. And he knew perfectly well that if he were honest about his real aims, there would be no Dignity, there would be no gay Christian movement, at least not one with a snowball's chance in Hell of succeeding. That would be like getting rid of the books and letting the casual window-shoppers see the porn. And we can't have that now, can we? In other words, the ex-Fr. McNeill is a bad priest and a con man. And given the often lethal consequences of engaging in homosexual sex, a con man with blood on his hands.

And elsewhere:

Let me be clear. I believe that McNeill's real beliefs, as deduced from his actual behavior, and distinguished from the arguments he puts forward for the benefit of the naïve and gullible, represent the real aims and objectives of the homosexual rights movement. They are the porn that the books are meant to conceal. In other words, if you support what is now described in euphemistic terms as "the blessing of same-sex unions," in practice you are supporting the abolition of the entire Christian sexual ethic, and its substitution with an unrestricted, laissez faire, free sexual market. The reason that the homosexual rights movement has managed to pick up such a large contingent of heterosexual fellow-travelers is simple: Because once that taboo is abrogated, no taboos are left. I once heard a heterosexual Episcopalian put it this way: If I don't want the church poking its nose into my bedroom, how can I condone it when it limits the sexual freedom of homosexuals? That might sound outrageous, but if you still believe that the debate is over the religious status of monogamous same-sex relationships, please be prepared to point out one church somewhere in the U.S. that has opened its doors to active homosexuals without also opening them to every other form of sexual coupling imaginable. I am too old to be taken in by "Father" McNeill and his abstractions anymore. Show me.

If you haven't already, I would recommend that everyone read this very excellent article by Lee, one who has been on the "inside" and knows of that which he speaks. It's long, but well worth the effort.

18 posted on 06/02/2011 7:52:54 AM PDT by fwdude (Prosser wins, Goonions lose.)
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