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Methodists Move Toward LGBT Inclusion
religion Dispatches ^ | 10 Jun 2011 | CANDACE CHELLEW-HODGE

Posted on 06/10/2011 3:02:32 AM PDT by Cronos

In my article last month about the historic vote by Presbyterians to endorse the ordination of gay and lesbian ministers, I issued a challenge to the Methodist Church, the last mainstream denomination holding out on full acceptance of LGBT people. It seems there were already Methodists taking up the challenge to make their denomination more welcoming.

Just days after the Presbyterians moved to approve gay and lesbian clergy, the Washington Post reported that “the Baltimore-Washington Conference of the United Methodist Church narrowly approved a groundbreaking same-sex marriage resolution.”

The resolution, passed at the church’s annual local conference, would amend the church’s Book of Discipline to allow pastors to perform same-sex marriages and ceremonies in member churches in jurisdictions where legislatures already have approved gay marriage laws, such as the District.

The measure was not expected to pass by its sponsor, Washington’s Foundry United Methodist. The pastor there, Rev. Dean Synder, said the resolution was presented “as an occasion to have a conversation. This is very exciting, very moving.”

The resolution must pass muster at the denomination’s General Conference next April in Tampa. Back in 2008, the General Conference rejected an attempt to remove a line from the Book of Discipline that calls homosexuality “incompatible with Christian teaching.”

The move in Washington was followed closely by 70 Methodist ministers in Minnesota vowing to marry same-sex couples seeking the church’s blessing. At present, the denomination forbids its clergy to preside over same-sex weddings, even in states where it is legal, or for its buildings to be used for such ceremonies. Ministers in violation could be de-frocked.

The move by the ministers comes as Minnesota voters prepare to vote next year on a constitutional amendment that would define marriage in the state as being only between one man and one woman. The statement was brought to the UMC’s annual state denominational conference last month by Rev. Bruce Robbins, pastor of the Hennepin Avenue United Methodist Church in Minneapolis. The statement gives a nod to the other denominations who are ahead of them:

We are convinced by the witness of others and are compelled by Spirit and conscience to act. We thank the many United Methodists who have already called for full equality and inclusion of lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender people in the life of the Church.

Neither measure goes as far as approving LGBT people for ordination, but the question remains: could this coming UMC General Conference be the tipping point for the Methodists as it was the Presbyterians' last denominational gathering? A lot has changed since 2008, with more people becoming accepting of LGBT people and marriage equality. Remember, back in 2009, the Presbyterian proposal to allow gay and lesbian clergy was defeated in the Presbyteries—with narrower margins than the two previous votes, until this year, when the margin finally favored gay and lesbian clergy. If these latest moves do not prove to be the ultimate tipping point for the Methodists, then we may well be witnessing the beginning of a trajectory toward inclusion similar to the Presbyterian journey.


TOPICS: Current Events; Mainline Protestant
KEYWORDS: gay; homosexualagenda; methodist; presbyterian
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Good for you, greatgrandma!

I guess some people don’t understand they are affiliated with heresy when they stay in these fallen denominations. One can still be a Christian Methodist, of course, but how can a Christian possibly stay in communion, working in unity with his so-called brethren, when they are openly espousing heresy? He cannot.


21 posted on 06/10/2011 5:10:45 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Coming soon...DADT for Christians!)
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To: anniegetyourgun
IMO, anyone who remains a member of an apostate “denomination” has already taken the mark! Salvation isnt found in a denomination and if you tithe or otherwise support the efforts of one of these you are propping up the arm of the devil.
22 posted on 06/10/2011 5:13:07 AM PDT by TheGunny
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To: Cronos

Methodism has been a lost cause since the 70’s when Bishops cursed the Holy Spirit in a rampage to rid every church in their conferences of charismatic influence. Wesley’s authoritarian character, based as it was on his deep devotion to the work of the Holy Spirit, has been perverted and made demonic. Methodism remains little more than a cult led by elitist thugs and their useful idiots who deny the authority of God.


23 posted on 06/10/2011 5:14:47 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (For love of Sarah, our country and the American Way of Life.)
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To: Cronos

I’m not writing that xzins is a heretic. What I’m saying is that he’s associated with the heretics if he stays in a fallen denomination. If xzins is absolutely convinced the Lord want him (or her) to stay there as a witness to the heretics, then who am I to dissuade him? He should do as the Lord directs. However, there are scriptural and historical indications that one should flee from heresy. The early church fathers, based on what I know, refused to have anything to do with the heretics, aka little anti-christs.


24 posted on 06/10/2011 5:16:36 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Coming soon...DADT for Christians!)
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To: Cronos

The church is not the same thing as The Church. Christ knows His sheep.


25 posted on 06/10/2011 5:18:27 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Coming soon...DADT for Christians!)
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To: Redleg Duke
but there is an Anglican Church in my town and I am comfortable there and don't have to drive 40 miles round trip.

God bless you

26 posted on 06/10/2011 5:24:14 AM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrząszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego słynie.)
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To: Cronos

If they’re REALLY inclusive, they’ll invite Satan into their midst. Now that’s INCLUSIVE! I mean, why be exclusive, after all?


27 posted on 06/10/2011 5:51:19 AM PDT by RoadTest (Organized religion is no substitute for the relationship the living God wants with you.)
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To: CitizenUSA

I’m of the Wesleyan denomination and I fear this will be accepting into it as well. Does anyone know if my fear has already become fact?


28 posted on 06/10/2011 5:59:17 AM PDT by ducttape45
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To: ducttape45

Don’t think so...yet. We have come to the conclusion that it’s time for a frank talk with our Wesleyan pastor though, focusing on traditional Bible-based values and support for Israel. Checking to make sure we are on the same page, since we keep hearing social justice themes. Stand firm!


29 posted on 06/10/2011 6:32:08 AM PDT by Pat4ever
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To: Cronos

Help them how? They’ve already surrendered, if the option is on the table.


30 posted on 06/10/2011 6:45:06 AM PDT by fwdude (Prosser wins, Goonions lose.)
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To: ducttape45

I checked out the Wesleyans’ official website a while back and was dismayed to find ‘diversity’ in one of the mission statements. In today’s zeitgeist, that can only mean one thing.


31 posted on 06/10/2011 6:47:33 AM PDT by fwdude (Prosser wins, Goonions lose.)
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To: Pat4ever
I started going to a Wesleyan church because I've been taking classes through a local Wesleyan college and I need to start making myself accountable to a local body to progress to ordination and accreditation through the Wesleyan denomination.

My problem is that I also have heard social justice, the "Purpose Driven Life," etc, talked about in the church and I know those are code words for socialism. And it wasn't just one church, I heard it in several. Plus they also sound like a lot like a Benny Hinn service.

So now I have a decision to make on whether I want to be accountable to church body that appears as if they are going down the "marxist road" or do I try and locate a church, no matter the denomination, that preaches a true gospel.

They are hard to find.

32 posted on 06/10/2011 12:26:24 PM PDT by ducttape45
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To: fwdude

I need to find that. Can you provide a link?


33 posted on 06/10/2011 12:27:32 PM PDT by ducttape45
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To: ducttape45
This statement appears under the official Wesleyan website's "Our Core Values & Beliefs" link: (http://www.wesleyan.org/beliefs)
UNITY IN DIVERSITY: There is intrinsic value in every person. Unity becomes all the more important and beautiful in the light of the wide ranges of difference in personality, culture, race, talents, and perspectives. Loving each other eliminates devaluation and deprivation of life to one another.

34 posted on 06/10/2011 12:33:15 PM PDT by fwdude (Prosser wins, Goonions lose.)
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To: Cronos

Lamestream denomination.


35 posted on 06/10/2011 12:35:23 PM PDT by mas cerveza por favor
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To: fwdude
You're right, that does sound ominious. I don't like where that line of thinking can go.

Another thing is the statement, "Loving each other eliminates devaluation and deprivation of life to one another." While we are commanded to love, this statement doesn't take into account the entire concept of biblical teaching on sin.

It's almost to the point where the true church will have to go underground to survive.

36 posted on 06/10/2011 12:45:04 PM PDT by ducttape45
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To: ducttape45
Again, 'diversity' only means one thing in today's PC religious world. The wealth of false doctrine in this single statement is appalling. All people do NOT have intrinsic value, they are only valued as God loves them, not because something in them make them innately lovable and "valuable." The default position of every person is that they deserve nothing but eternal destruction in hell until God saves them by his horrific Sacrifice.

I once considered becoming a Wesleyan, but never now.

37 posted on 06/10/2011 1:00:44 PM PDT by fwdude (Prosser wins, Goonions lose.)
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To: Cronos

Sounds like the Knights of Ni in here, “Run away, Run away!!”


38 posted on 06/10/2011 3:51:08 PM PDT by Rashputin (Obama is insane but kept medicated and on golf courses to hide it)
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To: sayuncledave; Cronos; Chode

39 posted on 06/10/2011 3:53:51 PM PDT by Morgana (I speak no more)
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To: Cronos

I left the Methodist socialist party 11 years ago when I finally realized that the Methodist church was not a church. For most Methodists, it’s a social club — kind of a poor man’s country club. For the small group that runs everything, it’s an extreme left-wing political party.


40 posted on 06/10/2011 3:58:39 PM PDT by Rum Tum Tugger
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