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To: smvoice; Amerisrael
According to the Apostle Paul, the believer enters through Baptism into communion with Christ's death, is buried with him, and rises with him:
Rom 6:3-4;
3Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
4Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

cf. Col 2:12

12Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

The baptized have "put on Christ."
Gal 3:27

27For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

Through the Holy Spirit, Baptism is a bath that purifies, justifies, and sanctifies
1 Cor 6:11

11And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

1 Cor 12:13

13For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

This is what Christ preached and what has always been believed since Apostolic Times

154 posted on 06/11/2011 9:22:18 PM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrząszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego słynie.)
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To: Cronos
One more time, Cronos. The verses you have cited are SPIRITUAL BAPTISM, by the HOLY SPIRIT into the body of Christ. It has nothing, NOTHING to do with water. It is the Holy Spirit doing the baptism, not water.

You are in Paul's Epistles. You will not find water baptism as a means to get anything, anywhere, anytime, in his epistles. As a matter of fact, he thanks God he did not water baptize but a few at Corinth. For Christ sent me NOT TO BAPTIZE, but to preach the gospel.." 1 Cor. 17. And there is a reason Paul baptized a few, and was baptized himself.

IF water baptism for remission of sins is part of the gospel that saves, either Paul a). did not know this, yet had the nerve to thank God he didn't baptize but a few, or b). Knew the gospel he preached, that he received by direct revelations of the risen Christ, did not include water baptism for remission of sins.

Something changed. The 12 would NEVER had thanked God that they baptized so few, and then commented that Christ had sent them NOT TO BAPTIZE but to preach the gospel.

Anyone with eyes can see that something major had changed from Peter and the 11 to Paul. It's up to each of us to decide whether they care about the changes. But the changes cannot be denied.

One question just out of curiosity, Cronos: Why was Jesus baptized with water?

156 posted on 06/11/2011 9:38:55 PM PDT by smvoice (The Cross was NOT God's Plan B.)
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To: Cronos; smvoice; Amerisrael
There are those who, post after post, quote exclusively from the Catechism Of The Catholic Church without even a hint of attribution.

This series of posts is just such an example of unthinking spam and is worthy of the trash barrel.

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211 posted on 06/12/2011 1:54:42 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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