Posted on 06/20/2011 2:52:39 PM PDT by Pyro7480
Amen sister...well said.
Who are you and what are your qualifications for knowing what the USCCB and the SOLT thinks about these things? How do you get your “inside” knowledge?
I am still trying to soak everything in get a grasp on the situation. I will tell you right now that I will not continue to follow him if he does indeed leave the priesthood. I cannot. I still love what he has preached, and I will support him. But he has taken an oath with the Church to serve as a priest for life. If he breaks that oath he will give me no choice but to avoid him.
There are a lot of us on here who happen to like him and we are all in a lot of pain over this. You can try to cut us some slack and not rub salt in our wounds.
The more that this plays out, the more disappointed I get.
I don’t consider him a con man in that he has never said or done anything to pull me in the wrong direction in regards to my faith. I went to one conference and bought the Catechism of the Catholic Church. I watched him on EWTN the rest of the time. So to be honest, you didn’t really have to invest any money to hear him preach if you didn’t want to. I don’t feel fleeced if that is what you are insinuating.
If you want, read post 37 and you will see where my mind is headed on this.
I don’t want quarrel with anyone anymore about this. That is the last thing us Catholics need to do.
I will say this, if he is guilty, my heart will be completely broken. I will still care for him because he has helped to inspire me in my faith and bring me closer to the Blessed Mother as well. He is human, and humans always screw up. That’s what we do.
Try not to get too down about this. The evil one will attack anyone who brings souls to Christ. If Fr. Corapi has fallen, it is a warning to us all to be on guard and to take what precautions have been prescribed by the Church for the temptations we all will face. With so many prayers, I hope that he recants his statements in humility and honors the request of his superior at SOLT.
Thank you for your advice.
I think that what he really needs to do right now is reflect on his situation and not be so impulsive. I really don’t think that he is thinking clearly right now. I think he is very angry and when your driven by anger you don’t make the right decisions.
If he is being honest and he is indeed innocent of these allegations, than he just has to give it time and the truth will indeed come out and he will be vindicated. He has to look at it this way, if Christ wants you to preach than he will make it so. If he doesn’t, he will let you know. Maybe Christ just wants him to be quiet for awhile and reflective. It may seem unjust to him, but it might just be something he has to endure.
Either way, the truth will eventually come out. It always does.
I am shaken and startled to hear you say your heart is broken. I would never wish that on you! Despite what I know about Corapi, I see he did have an effective and powerful way of communicating Church teachings, and that thousands of people were positively touched by that, and as you say, it could have been by watching him on TV. There is a lady in our parish who seemed to feel some connection with him and like you is very upset.
He has a gift, they call it “charisma”. Obama has the same thing. Appearances can be deceiving. I guess by watching someone on TV it is almost impossible to discern this charisma from the inner man with no other background info.
I don’t blame anyone who liked Corapi’s presentations. But some of it does ridiculously border on hero worship or cultism. For so many to be so vitriolic about the bishop, for example, or the USCCB, is blatantly ignorant of what happened. The USCCB has nothing to do with Corapi nor have they ever nor will they ever. Corapi’s SOLT superior is the only one that has authority over him and the “process.”
Your response is a genuine and normal reaction, I don’t mean you are going overboard. But many people are, as if the guy is almost a god or something.
Corapi knows he has this adoring following, and that part of their affection for him is that he was a priest, upstanding, preaching the truth and giving good advice. He also must know that he is now letting all those people down and in the most defiant way possible for an ordained man of God. I think that shows his true character. But time will tell.
Sorry, that information is released on a need-to-know basis.
I believe on FR we are all entitled to express reasonable and respectful opinions as long as we articulate the rationale, without having to reveal personal information.
You are free of course to doubt my credibility. However, it seems the internet right now is split about 50/50, half having views similar to mine, the other half being infatuated with Corapi to the point of refusing to even face various possibilities.
It’s never a good thing to hold anybody to such a ridiculous esteem that you blind yourself to the fact that they could possibly mess up and mess up badly. You really do set yourself up for a huge disappointment. Maybe I have done this to myself, I don’t know.
To be honest, I did see a change in him over the past few years. I don’t know what is going on in his life so I shouldn’t make assumptions. But I feel like maybe he got to be too huge a figure. That is never good for anyone. I can see why you and other people could be turned off, but he did have some really good things to say and he was on the money with a lot of things. He delivered a very good message and could be very sweet and charismatic at times.
Maybe his status was starting to effect his character and his soul in bad ways. Maybe this is God’s way of saying to him “stop and regroup”. Yes God did give him a gift to preach, and he still may be compelled to do so. But sometimes God says “no” and you have to accept that. God allows things to happen for a reason. Even things that may seem unjust and unfair sometimes. We all have to do our best to accept that as hard as it is to do so.
I don’t like what I am hearing from him now. I think he has lost his way somewhat. Despite what you may feel about him, I think that he is a decent man with a wonderful gift. Please pray for him that he may find his way. And pray for people like me who have been hurt by this. I say this with tears in my eyes.
You said, “I bet half the USCCB have NEVER HEARD HIS NAME!!!” and “But Corapi has always been almost a laughingstock to those on the inside, he’s like a side puppet show, not one of the big boys at all.” Statements like these are not “reasonable and respectful.” They are the statements of someone who is reading other people’s minds - unless you are one of the “insiders” yourself and have heard people voicing these sentiments. Evidently you’re just one of those who is projecting your own opinions and don’t really have a clue what is going on.
Money. It’s all about certain assorted people trying to extract money from Corapi in any way they can. In case you don’t remember, he won a legal judgment worth several million $$$$ just a few years ago.
The bonus is they could be rid of his mouth. He talks and some people don’t like it.
Wake up.
And get taken to the cleaners by the diocese and SOLT you mean?
I don’t blame Corapi for doing what he’s done. It’s not pretty but the alternative is worse. Most people don’t realize how screwy all this is...from the get-go.
He talked a good game about the Church, but now he won’t submit to her processes. We’ve discussed about how certain saints responded to attacks on their ministry. A petition from other priests was sent to the Bishop about St. John Vianney, claiming that he was incompetent and should be removed. Vianney signed his name to the petition.
Many of us listened to Fr. Corapi’s talks and feel betrayed by his very worldly response to this.
Note that SOLT skirts the issue of WHEN the determination of credibility was set to occur. Fr. Corapi's complaint was that it was not going to happen in any kind of timely manner and he is seriously ill.
I just don't understand how adding to the obstructions by bringing suit over an NDA makes much sense if the speed of the process is so important to him that he would leave the priesthood rather than wait longer.
Regards
**he is seriously ill.**
If Father Corapi were to die tomorrow — even within the next month, would many regret what they have said?
I think so.
We do not know the details; we cannot judge.
His choice was to be on ice indefinitely or continue preaching — the activity he has a calling for. He chose to continue preaching.
I’d have a greater respect for the power structures of the American Catholic Church if I saw equal vigor in standing up for pro-abort pro-gay politicians as I see in hounding a conservative priest. At this point my presumptions are all on the side of Fr. Corapi, none on the SOLT bureaucrats’.
I can definitely understand that and don't mistake my not really understanding the position and actions of the Corapi for having any great sympathy for the bureaucrats on the other side of the fence. Corapi has done some things that set off warning bells for me based on my past experiences, that's all, it doesn't mean I think SOLT is going about this the right way either. Regards
I understand. Neither am I without reservations, but I surely would like to see Fr. Corapi apply his talents as a lay preacher, or better still to see SOLT taking an initiative and finding a quick and fair resolution.
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