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To: svcw

I’m aware of a lot of things, including the fact that you like to bait people.

Quoting Scripture isn’t necessary. It just means you don’t have the words in your heart to argue.


96 posted on 06/30/2011 2:30:19 PM PDT by Monkey Face (Nothing is so bad that a good skirl on the Pipes can't cure! Long live sionnsar!)
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To: Monkey Face

I didn’t quote any scripture.
You asked if what I posted to you was my opinion, I was just letting you know that is what lds teach, apparently your were unaware of that fact.


98 posted on 06/30/2011 2:33:26 PM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: Monkey Face; restornu
Quoting Scripture isn’t necessary. It just means you don’t have the words in your heart to argue.

Wow....you apparently know what is in the heart's of men!!! Unbelievable!!

One of three things is going on here...you are channeling Resty, you are both channeling Joseph Smith...or you both are horribly deceived. Which is it?

108 posted on 06/30/2011 4:07:46 PM PDT by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: Monkey Face; svcw; benhoganfan; Technocrat
I’m aware of a lot of things, including the fact that you like to bait people. Quoting Scripture isn’t necessary. It just means you don’t have the words in your heart to argue.

Who's baiting people? And by that definition, are you not baiting svcw by tossing out the accusation that she hasn't digested God's Word -- in comparison to that which competes against it -- and placed it on her heart?

Really, MonkeyFace, I expect more from you. I know you've told us in the past that you don't like quotes, but somebody who is as widely read as you are should be one who respects them.

You've also told us in the past that you think "eternal progression" = becoming perfect -- something you've indicated doesn't happen on earth. But let me offer a counter perspective by citing one verse:

14For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified. (Hebrews 10:14, the KJV Bible)

Here is the NIV rendering of that same verse: 14 For by one sacrifice he has made perfect forever those who are being made holy.

You see, based upon this verse and others like it, the definition of a Christian is someone who is already perfect in the Father's sight through Jesus' Sacrificial death.

Heavenly Father looks at those of us who trust Christ's righteousness to cover our lack of it, and sees perfection. Our perfection? No. His Son's, Christ. That perfection is imputed to us; the apostle Paul says Jesus has become our very righteousness (see 1 Corinthians 1:30).

All svcw is doing, in pointing out 2 Nephi 25:23 from the Book of Mormon, is that it seems Mormons believe in perfecting themselves and effectively are trying to "bribe" the Mormon god via good deeds...as if that will change his mind about them!

144 posted on 07/01/2011 5:11:08 AM PDT by Colofornian (The Mormon church regards 100% of the founding fathers as apostates from the 'true' church)
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To: Monkey Face

Quoting Scripture isn’t necessary. It just means you don’t have the words in your heart to argue.
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Quoting Scripture is ALWAYS necessary.

When discussing Christianity, the only words that can be trusted are the Words of God

the only words in a persons heart should be the Words of God

THY words have I hid in my heart so that I might not sin against you Psalm 119:11

Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. Psalm 119:105

But what if the words in your heart are not the words of God ???

Lead me, O LORD, in your righteousness because of my enemies—make straight your way before me. Not a word from their mouth can be trusted; their heart is filled with destruction. Their throat is an open grave; with their tongue they speak deceit Psalm 5:8, 9


152 posted on 07/01/2011 7:38:18 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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