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To: topher
Lenin's mother was a Freemason

I find that hard to believe. Freemasons are all male.

11 posted on 07/08/2011 8:50:37 PM PDT by bannie ("The gov't that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.")
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To: bannie
Best I can figure it out the problem is NONE of the Catholics writing about the Masons are supposed to be all that familiar with it ~ after all, such familiarity would only come with membership!

Compound that with the fact that they are writing for the illumination of the minds of their fellows in an overwhelmingly Catholic country, there's really not going to be all that many folks around who'd even try to poke holes in the stories.

It is axiomatic that local partisans will blame foreign spies and traitors for current problems! That is true at any time for any society.

Still you can look up the various Masonic sites on the net and they will tell you where each and every chapter is located in which Mexican cities. There's a Benito Juarez chapter ! Now that was a surprise. Benito? Honored by the Masons? Well, there it is. Most of the others are named after the cities and towns where they are located.

Looks about as open an organization in Mexico as it is in the US or Canada.

One thing to watch out for was a warning that a number of the sites claiming that Trotsky was a Mason are also anti-semitic!

There's apparently little in the way of verifiable fact beyond an article he appears to have written about the Masons.

I seriously doubt the Orthodox crowd in Russia have any more depth of understanding of the Masons than anyone else. Fur Shur, they know about Commies!

BTW, I've never engaged any known member of the Masons in conversation to determine the depth of his anti-Catholic sentiment, nor have I ever engaged any known Roman Catholic in conversation to determine the depth of his anti-Mason sentiment.

I don't really think those are big issues in the United States ~ particularly now that we have so many Roman Catholic members of the Republican party (with a safe presumption that at least half the Masons are Republicans as well).

They do seem to get along with each other quite well ~ no assassinations for instance. In Mexico? Would they have room for that given the big press being put on the country by the narcotrafficantes ~

14 posted on 07/08/2011 9:06:55 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: bannie

Hey my horse is a freemmason!

(Where do they come up with this kuehscheisse?)

Yeah, every friday, we go down to the caves of Looray, with out Hourse, And, Verily, Our Electic Hoseblankety. And Verily, when we turn on the POWER, the Horsy shall Dance, as IF in Agonies...

And wear funny hats, and worshipith in caves, and drinketh alot.

Oh, and we owneth all the treasures of the world. they are in your basemant, beause I don’t haveth a basement.

A moose bit me sister, once.

The person responsible for this post has been sacked...


29 posted on 07/08/2011 10:32:31 PM PDT by patton (I am sure that I have done dumber things in my life, but at the moment, I aTm unable to recall them.)
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To: bannie
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7J8zR7x9YS0
39 posted on 07/09/2011 3:11:32 AM PDT by bronxville (Sarah will be the first American female president.)
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To: bannie
The source for that was Josyp Terelya, Ukrainian dissident who was freed at the request of Pope John Paul, President Mitterand of France, and then President Ronald Reagan.

I guess I was mistaken about this because of Lee Meriwether. This actress was/is a member of Rainbow Girls.

I was under the impression that if one was a Rainbow Girl, one was a mason. However, Rainbow Girls are a community service organization.

I will have to find in which book Terelya references this.

However, Josyp Terelya states the following in his book In the Kingdom of the Spiriton page 126:

... Today's false ecumenism is in close with non-ecclesiastical political organizations and also with manifest and secret international organizations that are hostile to the Church of Christ, especially freemasonry. This is a fact. The masons do not hide this. From the very beginning, all the high ranking communists of the U.S.S.R. have been members of various Masonic lodges.

60 posted on 07/09/2011 6:45:27 AM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- are the values that time has proven them to work)
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To: bannie
Lenin's grandmother, Anna, would attend Masonic meetings.

I am clearly incorrect on this.

Here is the reference that my faulty memory must have changed:

From page 187 of the book Witness by Josyp Terelya:

Consider some facts: Lenin's mother was named Maria... Anna [mother of Maria, grandmother of Lenin] often went to the meetings of the brotherhood of Masons...

However, in the book In the Kingdom of the Spirit, Josyp Terelya, on page 146, clearly states that Lenin was a mason...

... concluding with the Freemasons - Kerensky, Trotsky, Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, and Fidel Castro ...

It is Josyp Terelya that I rely on for information.

Why?

He was an extraordinary mystic. His own life was saved in such an unusual way that it puzzled the KGB...

64 posted on 07/09/2011 7:26:08 AM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- are the values that time has proven them to work)
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