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To: hosepipe; metmom; csense; Alamo-Girl; betty boop

Like I said... is “THAT”.. a belief in dogma -OR- something alive.?..

Spirited: To question everything is to believe nothing, even responses provided within morally informed and disciplined discourse. Nihilistic skepticism is deadly to the spirit and the intellect because undisciplined questioning tends to eviscerate the processes of thought.


71 posted on 07/23/2011 2:47:14 AM PDT by spirited irish
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To: spirited irish; hosepipe; csense; Alamo-Girl; betty boop
Like I said... is “THAT”.. a belief in dogma -OR- something alive.?..

The faith is in a person. Dogma doesn't save anyone. Jesus does.

Nevertheless, the old nature cannot be reformed; it must die. The only way to see heaven is to be born spiritually. Not a change as in an evolving into something better, but a new creation.

Jesus gave the example in the Gospels of a grain of wheat which dies and is put in the ground (buried), and then brings forth new life, not a caterpillar, reaching the next stage in human evolution.

72 posted on 07/23/2011 7:27:25 AM PDT by metmom (Be the kind of woman that when you wake in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: spirited irish

[ To question everything is to believe nothing, even responses provided within morally informed and disciplined discourse. ]

Its not a matter of what you believe its a matter of WHO You ARE.. that counts..

Jesus DIDn’t say you need to change your Mind......
He said, “You MUST be born again..”


73 posted on 07/23/2011 8:58:17 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: spirited irish

[ Nihilistic skepticism is deadly to the spirit and the intellect because undisciplined questioning tends to eviscerate the processes of thought. ]

Since you brought it up.. Being a christian is not about how smart(accurate) you are.. even dumb people can be christians.. Which is testified by so many christian religious memes....Most all christian religions are Cargo cults.. with dogmatic shaman.. Which is why Jesus in John ch 10 was calling “them” OUT of the sheep pen(s)... to the “pasture”.. (Ps 23)

Jesus came to make ALL religions Obsolete...... AND DID!..
Jesus did NOT forbid sheep pens.. he just called them out of them..
It appears (to me) that sheep pens are needed as holding tanks for people drunk on the wine of this world..
You know until they sober up and COME OUT OF THEM..


74 posted on 07/23/2011 9:24:38 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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