Posted on 07/19/2011 5:26:40 AM PDT by NYer
Where in any of his statements did you get THAT notion? There are some people with homosexual inclinations who do not ACT on them. Sounds like this young man has given it much thought, and more importantly, PRAYER, and has come to the conclusion that acting on his inclinations just isn't worth the cost of his immortal soul.
I don’t know. I’m Catholic and I’m pretty happy. Now if you’re talking about homosexual Catholics, that’s another story.
Bingo.
He has my prayers regardless. Keep fighting the fight like the rest of us.
That's right, that is what MY Catholic church taught me. It's what I believe ... what did your Catholic Church teach you, that it was OK to be gay? Your Parrish has a religious screw loose if that's the case!
Do you believe in that totally ridiculous idea that people choose to be homosexual? That is to say they are not born homosexual.
Yes I do ... if you say they are "born" homosexual so society must give them a pass, then fine, what about pedophiles ... aren't they "born" that way then too? So we give both gays and pedophiles a pass because they were just "born" that way. Hey, it's just a sexual abnormality they were born with, not their fault. If you believe that, pal, you are headed for some real problems. I'm getting sicker and sicker of this "hey do anything (or anybody) you want" .. life is great, there are no religious downsides anymore, that's "old hat" ... we'll see in the end won't we?
Is there an official Jewish position?
Whoa Patriots. Let’s take a step back and refocus.
I always ask people like you: Who would choose to be gay if they were not?
Being born homosexual is no different than being born with a congenital disease or missing an arm. Something went terribly wrong in the womb.
The Catholic Church does not condemn homosexuality. How could it? The person was born that way. The Catholic Church does condemn homosexual acts. That is why it is possible to be both Catholic and homosexual.
I never said homosexual behavior should be given a pass. However, as long as the behavior is kept in the bedroom I don’t see it as any of my business. God is the judge, not me.
I do take great exception to the Gay Pride Day twits that make public asses of themselves and try to tear down the sacrament of matrimony. Despite the media’s fascination and coverage of their antics, this crowd is really a small percent of the homsexual population, And, of course, crimes committed by gay people should be prosecuted—just like crimes committed by hetero folks.
Can you at least agree that gays are God’s children, too?
If none of this makes any sense to you, then I wish you well in your role as God.
I know what my position is from Torah. And the Orthodox I´ve been in shul with are in accord. Essentially hate the sin, love the sinner. Just don´t bring it to synagogue.
Thanks for the article.
He is living the life all Catholics who are not married are called to live. Celibacy.
He also recognizes that he can never have a sexual relationship.
Single women and single men live that out every day.
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The author has my admiration. He is apparently living a celibate life and doing so in obedience to God, and finding his happiness and his foundation in life, his relationship with God, despite the temptations of sinful desires. I would hope that he would eventually not identify as "gay" but maybe his words will help others who currently identify thusly. Interesting discussion on thread, to...
Of course. Everyone has desires they don't act on. To exhibit self-restraint and choose which desires to give in to and which to restrain, is human life. Only animals have no sense of self-restraint. And no one is born homosexual, I'll post a link with tons of information in a minute. The short explanation is that there are countless former homoseuxals. There is no biological or genetic cause, and believe me, homosexual researchers have looked for one, and can't find it.
Check this thread out, a great source of information, many links to follow:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2730140/posts
Not born this way: The facts, plus help available
Save California ^ | Various authors
Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2011 7:48:09 AM by scripter
Without any reputable evidence, the entertainment culture, uneducated media, and sexual activists have seduced today’s teenagers, in particular, to believe that people are born homosexual.
However, science has found no biological basis for homosexuality, bisexuality, or transsexuality.
Study after study has found the “LGBT” lifestyle to be unhealthy, with the highest rate of sexually-transmitted diseases, and higher cancer rates and earlier deaths.
While all people are worthy and valuable, the fact is people are not “born this way,” as a popular song insists.
On this page you will find:
1. The facts on homosexuality
2. Resources to overcome homosexual behavior and gender identity disorder
3. An important video message titled “Does God Love Gay People?”
4. Some personal stories from people who used to live a homosexual lifestyle
It's the "other another story" I was referring to.
Celebrate you gayness ... just keep it away from me and my kids!
Meaning "making it less socially acceptable to speak clearly what God says in His word about homosexuality".
Who would choose to be a drug addict if they were not? And yet, people who are not drug addicts do choose to become drug addicts through a series of choices.
This guy is choosing to resist his temptations, and that's good. But the only way he was "born that way" is the same way a drug addict is "born that way".
We are all born with a fallen nature. We shouldn't be going about trumpeting what our particular temptation is and how great we are for resisting it.
Thanks for the ping, LJ! I was expecting something completely different. What a nice surprise. A beautiful testament to the power of Faith! This man’s life is proof people can live clean lives with God’s help. A powerful personal testament and reminder to us all. God Bless him! : )
I was expecting something quite different too. He’s courageous for telling his story because aggressive homosexuals and their assistants on the left hate those who have same sex attraction and fight it or worse yet, heal it!
We all have a fallen nature and he’s a good example for everyone, no matter what temptations they struggle with.
You are so correct... love the sinner... hate the sin.
I couldn’t agree more and am glad you saw it as positively as I did. Yes, many homosexuals would see him as a threat and an enemy. He was most courageous to take such a public stand...and his faith is a good example for us all. Sin is no substitute for the sacraments and his close relationship with God, a good thing for us all to remember when we’re tempted.
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