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To: paladin1_dcs
While I admit that I lean more towards a Pre-Trib, Pre-Mil position, there's a part of me that can see that the Pre-Wrath position could be seen as correct, the Scriptures state that we're not appointed to Wrath, not that we'll escape the troubles after all, as well as a way in which the Post-Trib position could be correct.

IMHO the division between the Church and Israel is so neat and clean. The pre wrath rapture position (3 years or so into the tribulation) muddies this and muddies the imminent return of Christ in the clouds for the rapture throughout the last 2000 years. The pre wrath position is waiting for the antichrist.

27 posted on 07/21/2011 7:50:45 AM PDT by marbren
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To: marbren
IMHO the division between the Church and Israel is so neat and clean. The pre wrath rapture position (3 years or so into the tribulation) muddies this and muddies the imminent return of Christ in the clouds for the rapture throughout the last 2000 years. The pre wrath position is waiting for the antichrist.

I agree completely with your post. The Bible is divided dispensationally. Romans through Philemon is written for the Church the Body of Christ, the dispensation of the Grace of God, and ends with the rapture of the church. Notice the next book is Hebrews. Written to..who...the Hebrews. The middle wall of partition is gone, and God is once again dealing with Jews and Gentiles on separate basis. Next comes James..written to the 12 tribes..then Peter..written to the strangers scattered...then John, written to the elect lady and her children, then Jude, written to those contending for the faith, then Revelation..the second coming of Christ the Messiah and setting up of His kingdom.

The only way to explain this change in God's attention back to Israel is that the Church the Body of Christ has been raptured. And Daniel's final week is beginning. The Book of Hebrews, like the Book of Acts, is a transitional Book. Acts transitioned from Israel to Jews and Gentiles as one Body. Hebrews transitions back to Israel. And God's dealing with her.

32 posted on 07/22/2011 11:12:19 AM PDT by smvoice (The Cross was NOT God's Plan B.)
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