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Ireland denounces Vatican role in abuse cover-ups
Forbes ^ | July 20th 2011 | SHAWN POGATCHNIK

Posted on 07/20/2011 7:01:07 PM PDT by Cardhu

DUBLIN -- The Vatican encouraged Catholic bishops not to tell police about suspected pedophile priests and flouted Irish law, Ireland's lawmakers declared Wednesday in an unprecedented denunciation of the Holy See's influence in this predominantly Catholic country.

The government and all opposition parties unanimously backed a motion accusing the Vatican of sabotaging the Irish bishops' 1996 decision to begin reporting suspected cases of child abuse to police.

"This is not Rome. This is the Republic of Ireland 2011, a republic of laws," Prime Minister Enda Kenny told lawmakers.

In a direct challenge to the Vatican, Kenny denounced what he called "the dysfunction, disconnection, elitism - and the narcissism - that dominate the culture of the Vatican to this day."

He said the church's leaders had repeatedly sought to defend their institutions at the expense of children, and to "parse and analyze" every revelation of church cover-up of crimes "with the gimlet eye of a canon lawyer."

Wednesday marked the first time that Ireland's parliament has lambasted the Vatican, rather than local church leaders, over the

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TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: diplomacy; ireland; irelsnd; parliament; romancatholicism; vatican
In a direct challenge to the Vatican, Kenny denounced what he called "the dysfunction, disconnection, elitism - and the narcissism - that dominate the culture of the Vatican to this day."
1 posted on 07/20/2011 7:01:11 PM PDT by Cardhu
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To: Cardhu
Funny that they cleave so tightly to the Church, because after all it was an English king (Henry II) that forced the religion on all of Ireland.
2 posted on 07/20/2011 7:06:58 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: livius
The Irish (clergy and government) hate the Vatican because it has cracked down on them and even forced one of their corrupt bishops to resign.

The entire Irish church had been taken over by leftist, modernist, sometimes homosexual and sometimes simply immoral, but always evil and anti-Catholic, clergy and bishops under JPII. BXVI actually took steps to do something about them, and now what we’re hearing are all the hornets flying out of their nests.

You seem to have your history backwards- here is something for you to ponder:

While the faithful on here twist themselves into pretzels to defend the Pope the Catholic Bishops of Ireland - lay it out with much more honesty. Of course they will accuse the Catholic Bishops of Lèse majesté confirming the Orthodox postion that have an infallable Pope will cause the simple people to forget God and worship a Pope.

"This is the only way how a true reform of the Church may start. Your Holiness, unless You depose these bishops, You will be co-responsible for paedophiliac scandals and the blame for prevention of the Church's reform will fall upon You."

His Holiness
Benedict XVI
Città del Vaticano

Ireland - deposition of all bishops

Your Holiness,

on 19th March 2010 You issued a pastoral letter concerning paedophilia in the Church in Ireland. We reflect on the text of the letter and raise a demand for just treatment.

Quotation from pt.1: "...of these sinful and criminal acts and the way Church authorities in Ireland dealt with them."

Commentary: Indeed, Church authorities committed sinful and criminal acts both those who committed them directly as well as the hierarchy which hypocritically concealed them.

Quo

tation from pt.2: "...the Church in Ireland must first acknowledge before the Lord and before others the serious sins committed against defenceless children."

Commentary: You admit that the hierarchy has not shown adequate repentance. Unfortunately, Ireland is no isolated case concerning these crimes.

Quotation from pt.4: "Significant too was the tendency during this period, also on the part of priests and religious, to adopt ways of thinking and assessing secular realities without sufficient reference to the Gospel."

Commentary: The root of homosexuality is a change of the living faith for secularization. The process of secularization in the Church has two main roots. The first one is the historical-critical method in theology which denies the Divinity of Christ, all miracles as well as the very inspiration of the Scripture. The second root is false reverence for pagan religions.

Quotation from pt.5: "...to ensure that the principles of justice are fully respected... (Address to the Bishops of Ireland, 28 October 2006)."

Commentary: Your Holiness, in this address You expressed the necessity of just punishment for these "egregious crimes".

Quotation from pt.6:"Many of you found that, when you were courageous enough to speak of what happened to you, no one would listen. Those of you who were abused in residential institutions must have felt that there was no escape from your sufferings."

Commentary: Thereby You admit the cynicism of the Irish hierarchy about the voice of the victims. No one from among the hierarchy would listen to these victims and they were left in a state of utter despair over the malice of this cynical hierarchy.

Quotation from pt. 7: "At the same time, God's justice summons us to give an account of our actions and to conceal nothing. Openly acknowledge your guilt, submit yourselves to the demands of justice, but do not despair of God's mercy."

Explanation: Penalties have to be imposed on paedophiliac priests and mainly on those hierarchs who consciously covered up these crimes whereby they caused their further spread. Ecclesiastical penalty laicization of the culprits i.e. of the paedophiliac priests and the bishops responsible. Civil penalty imprisonment both for the priests and for the laicized bishops.

Quotation from pt. 11: "It cannot be denied that some of you (bishops) and your predecessors failed, at times grievously, to apply the long-established norms of canon law to the crime of child abuse."

Commentary: Who is to blame most for the spread of paedophilia is the bishops who covered up paedophiliac crimes. If they had punished the offenders immediately, the crimes would not have spread further and the others (potential offenders) would have feared!

Your Holiness, all Ireland and the whole Church expect You to take adequate measures: TO DEPOSE ALL BISHOPS OF IRELAND FROM OFFICE. The reasons: 1) concealment of paedophiliac scandals; 2) betrayal of Christ and of the Church in the time of propaganda before the approval of the antichristian and demoralizing Lisbon Treaty; 3) public denial of faith and unity with heresies.

Through the deposition of bishops and appointment of new ones You will open the process of a true renewal of faith and morals in the Irish nation. The new bishops must be chosen from among those priests who have been persecuted by the present treacherous hierarchy for their orthodoxy and moral life. This is the only way how a true reform of the Church may start. Your Holiness, unless You depose these bishops, You will be co-responsible for paedophiliac scandals and the blame for prevention of the Church's reform will fall upon You.

Praying for You and asking for Your blessing,

Bishops of the UOGCC
+ Metodj OSBMr
+ Samuel OSBMr
+ Markian OSBMr + Eliás OSBMr Lvov (
Ukraine),
22nd March 2010 Copies to:
- Members of the Irish and EU Parliaments
- Mass media of Ireland and EU
- Catholic bishops of Europe
- Address: Synod of the UOGCC, 3 Sosnova St., Lvov Bryukhovychi, 79491,Ukraine


- www.uogcc.org.ua, www.community.org.ua; pidhirci.community@gmail.com
http://www.community.org.ua/dwnld/eng-HF-deposition-Irbps

You will notice who is kicking ass and taking names - not Ratzinger, as you claim.

3 posted on 07/20/2011 8:01:49 PM PDT by Cardhu
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To: Cardhu

The legislature declaring it does not make it true. They are trying to drum up support for making priests reveal what is told in confession.


4 posted on 07/20/2011 8:26:35 PM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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