His sin was in having consensual sex with an adult woman to whom he was not married. She was married to someone else PLUS Cutie was in a covenant agreement with the Catholic Church and took vows of celibacy. He broke his vows and she broke hers. I agree with his church in removing him from the priesthood.
What I don't agree with nor understand is how priests and bishops involved in criminal child sexual abuse got to keep their jobs and were moved around to different parishes where they continued to sexually abuse children. Shouldn't these men have received at least the same discipline as Cutie? I see some hypocrisy here.
The Left has infiltrated all our cultural sources and the church is not excluded. How high up it goes is anybody’s guess. What about that clown who visits Jeremiah Wright’s church? Geoffrey Feiger? He is a flaming communists, also.
The Catholic Church and the Communists Party share so much in common, such as a top-down command structure. Communism is also a religion, a godless religion. There are similarities in many other areas. The Communists lie about wanting to help the poor where the church is sincere. However, the Communist intent is to discredit the church and I suspect they have a big hand in that. it is easy to corrupt the church if you are a lying pretender like most Communists are.
I think the Church understands the grave error now-—it did tremendous damage to the body of the Church and their pocketbook.
In the 70’s there was a huge push by the “gay” mafia to take homosexuality off of the mental illness list and give the behavior a pass—treat it as normal. There would have been grave criticism of the church were they sanctioning all these homosexual priests and kicking them out. They were told to “counsel” them and that the “homosexuality” is not evil, per say and these “homosexual” priests were an exception (instead of the rule since they were probably abused as boys and repeating the behavior done to them).
Psychiatrists in Europe and in America are owned by the homosexual lobby and part of making the activity normal, starts with the medical community which was bought and controlled by the 80’s.
I am sure the Catholic Church was being “advised” by psychiatrists that this behavior wouldn’t occur again except in the instance where the Bishops were homosexual and saw nothing wrong with it.
Catholic Church would do a great service to humanity if they would compile the childhoods of all the homosexual priests and document the abuse done to them, because homosexuality is a learned behavior and the Church could prove it and end the genetic myth that makes people “think” it is normal human behavior. It is not....just like the homosexual culture of the Greeks sodomizing boys...was learned and way of life. Even their gods were depicted in sodomy with boys.
Of course anyone who has done wrong should be punished. But this in no way mitigates the guilt of Mr. Cutie.
I find your hypocrisy statement interesting. So because others aren’t punish then none should be punished?
Using this analogy, if some murders are not punished then no murders should be punished?
Are you making the argument that only when perfect justice is achieved then only justice may be wrought?
Very good.
What I don't agree with nor understand is how priests and bishops involved in criminal child sexual abuse got to keep their jobs and were moved around to different parishes where they continued to sexually abuse children. Shouldn't these men have received at least the same discipline as Cutie? I see some hypocrisy here.
Agreed. That is one of the pre-eminent tasks of the immediate last and current Pope: to deal with this situation. You have no idea how much I poured into the intercessory prayers last Sunday about the replacement of Rigali by Chaput, and what I offer up to the congregation each week. One of my friends said that somebody else in church remarked to her about the fact that I knew so much about what was going on in the Church. Even our Padre regularly talks to me about what's going on.
No excuses. And nobody, but nobody in this entire diocese will mess with my kids. It's not everyone that will stand up in a public and televised meeting with the Bishop and call him a non Catholic in the company of the non Catholic USCCB, and demand to know why I should send any of my kids to the seminary in his diocese.
I would like to interject something here that may clear up some of your confusion, boatbums. Panzer is ultimately right in that Cutie was forced to resign, however, as I recall, that isn’t all that happened.
When his adultery was discovered, IIRC, he was asked to end the relationship by his local bishop, and to report to a retreat house of some sort, whereas afterward, he would/could/might be reassigned to another post. Sound familiar?
It should, because this is how the pedarist priests were handled as well, so there is no inconsistency in that regard. It’s a shame that at least Cutie has enough “guts” (for lack of a better term) to say, “I’m not going to stop seeing this woman”, (and for that, fir disobeying his bishop, he was forced out), but the majority of the pedarist priests didn’t have the temerity, or at least honesty, to admit the same about themselves.
Also, if I may point out, when viewed in this way, the abuse scandal can be seen for what it truly was: not a conspiracy of coverup, but a (yes severely misguided) attempt to rehabilitate the abusers.
This is offered as a clarification of your post here. Indeed, I submit, if one views the facts objectively, one can only make the conclusion I make above. If you do not wish to do this, I cannot stop you, or anyone, from looking for and finding “conspiracies” under every rock you look, but nite this, I will not debate this.
Thus, the last response in this regard is yours, but please do not take my silence or silence in general from any Catholic as “proof” of some “conspiracy”. Speaking for myself I’m tired if pointing out the obvious above and see no reason to debate it any more. I simply post this for objective digestion and analysis.