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To: savagesusie; SunkenCiv

Dear Savage:

I think I detect more animosity to homosexual marriage than polygamy in your tone and certainily in the amount of words devoted to the subject.

And I’m sure you don’t really mean that women in a polygamous marriage breed cattle but that it is symbolism for the way you perceive their life. I seem to remember that some societies, including the Indians, Chinese and other Asian cultures, Muslims, and even the Jewishy Biblical Patriarchs, have practiced polygamy.

I didn’t even throw in polyandry, since its occurrence is rarer, found mostly in the Himmalayas (no pun intended)and in some areas of Oceania, Africa and Native America.

In America, we legalize both serial polygamy and polyandry. It’s called divorcegamey.


65 posted on 07/31/2011 8:51:47 AM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: wildbill

We never used to legalize serial polygamy and polyandry—it was the destruction of our Rule of Law-—to create a contract which was meaningless and could be discarded like a piece of toilet paper. No fault divorce destroyed the meaning of the word-— contract -—which is supposed to be between two equals.

So when we had contracts that were honored, there was very little “serial” polygamy and media wasn’t glorifying dysfunctional behaviors to children 24/7.

Lenin ruined the marriage contract in Russia—destroyed the institution of marriage there also.

Any marriage between unequal numbers of people denies the worth of one of the sexes and denies the teleological design of people and the duty (found in Natural Rights and Natural Law Theory—the philosophy of our government) to raise one’s biological offspring.

Because of private property and biology, it is imperative that governments NEVER interfere in the natural design (biological) of mankind. That is what “Just Law” is....Right Reason according to Nature. It is the fundamental principles of our legal documents. Right reason can never justify inequality of the sexes, nor can it justify dysfunctional silly uses of body parts.

It defies logic and reason and the teleological design of human beings which always mocks the idea of “God” (our govt. was based on our rights coming from God —also Natural Law Theory) and mocks human design and degrades the ability of people to do their duty and raise their biological offspring. Children need a mother and father who are considered equals so they learn to respect both sexes and learn how to relate to all human beings whether male or female. It is God’s design and we are a government based on the Creator’s standards of Right and Wrong—not the standards of the sick, twisted Alfred Kinsey.


67 posted on 07/31/2011 10:02:48 AM PDT by savagesusie (Virtue is a habit of the mind, consistent with nature and moderation and reason. Cicero)
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To: wildbill

You also tend to not consider the worldview of children in such environments—one a total lie to the teleological design of nature which defies and eliminates common sense and logic and reason and the other which encourages the ideology that some people are more important than others.

All societies that practice polygamy have slavery—they had a system of belief that allowed the “idea” that some people are more powerful, or more important than others.....they have more worth. Polygamy allows this “unequal” acceptance, to where it is normalized in children.

The only reason “women rights” even exist is because of Christians growing up in “one man = one woman” marriage. Christianity elevated the status of women and then eliminated slavery. When you give equal value to women in the sacrament of marriage and make it the norm-—then it will include the idea of equality for both men and women which it did—and extended to all mankind. This is unique to Christianity—a universal religion—rights of women and elimination of slavery—because of the elevation and importance of marriage to a sacrament and the importance of Mary as the mother of God.

In all countries which by law allow polygamy—women are treated as cattle—whether in muslim countries or African ones, etc. Their worth is never equal to man because of fact. Children growing up in societies that promote such beliefs are incapable of treating women with dignity and respect because they learn instinctively that women are worth much less than men by force of laws. All systems which deny biological truths and do not consider women as equal to men in dignity and worth, will be Unjust and unnatural/. (Cicero/Locke). Homosexuality is sexist and eliminates the possibility of uniting the sexes plus elevates such dysfunctional, silly usage of the body it destroys all logic of governments which are supposed to provide a system where societies can flourish and meet their human potentials.

It denies the very children of their biological parents—(the most evil thing which can be done to a human being and their Natural Right)—that psychologically proven system which is most emotionally and physically the safest and most productive and efficient method of raising children—proven and written about by Piaget, Erikson, Freud and all knowledgeable psychologists.


69 posted on 07/31/2011 12:15:15 PM PDT by savagesusie (Virtue is a habit of the mind, consistent with nature and moderation and reason. Cicero)
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