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To: Moonman62

RE: Except for his profane rants against Jews

Was Luther an inspiration for Adolf Hilter? Just asking.
He would never get away with it today with the ADL.


11 posted on 08/02/2011 9:14:40 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: SeekAndFind
No, Hitler was profoundly anti-Christian and probably thought Luthor was a fool. Luthor's attitude was a reflection of his time and was very normal for a Christian of that age. And (as the current Pope now apparently agrees) he considered himself to be a reformer of the Roman Catholic Church and no heretic.

If I recall correctly, one of the major hot buttons was Transubstantiation, whether the Communal Host was actually magically transformed into the literal body and blood of Christ or was He speaking in an allegorical sense. I think Luthor's opinion was the same as the traditional Catholic belief while people like Calvin diverged.

European history has never been my specialty so any correction would be appreciated.

18 posted on 08/02/2011 9:32:42 AM PDT by katana
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To: SeekAndFind

:: He would never get away with it today with the ADL ::

The conservative (originalist) groups within the Lutheran tradition continue to “get away with it”.


20 posted on 08/02/2011 9:45:33 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Islam is a violent and tyrannical political ideology and has nothing to do with "religion".)
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To: SeekAndFind
Was Luther an inspiration for Adolf Hilter? Just asking. He would never get away with it today with the ADL.

You'll have to research that for yourself. I do believe that the long standing cultural hatred of Jews in Europe is why they are so welcoming to Muslims over there.

Hitler had a fascinating life. I think his main motivator was his extreme hatred for his father. Hatred of Jews, German nationalism, etc. was a means to an end for him.

31 posted on 08/02/2011 10:03:06 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It has been my understanding that Luther’s bitterness against the Jewish people came in his later years. The theory is that he had expected Jewish people to be totally delighted with the declaration that Salvation came by Faith and not works, and would flock to be converted once they understood this vital doctrine.

When this didn’t happen, it challenged his cherished beliefs, and disappointed him greatly.

Of course, there is no excuse for hating the people you can’t convert!

As far as being an inspiration for Hitler, that is indeed unfortunate. But so was Wagner, and even the “Aryan” Legends of Tibet. The swastika was originally a Buddhist symbol.

Nazism was a construct of Teutonic Mythology, Communist Totalitarianism, Asian Mysticism, German Protestant Terminology, and Medieval Satanism all rolled into one.

Luther just got caught up in the mix, and since he had been dead almost 500 years, couldn’t do much about it.

Would Luther have have gotten away with antisemitism in this day and age? Probably. The Left rants against Jews and Israel and gets away with it ALL THE TIME.

Just sayin’.


36 posted on 08/02/2011 10:53:32 AM PDT by left that other site (Psalm 122:6)
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