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To: allmendream

Agree very much with driver’s licenses. No question there.

As for withholdings the state actually doesn’t have a compelling interest to crack down here because the tax is taken right out of the paycheck.

If the state were restored to it’s constitutional role in having the individual pay his or her own taxes, then it would have an incentive to crack down on illegal immigration.

Right now the state uses the businesses as tax collectors, which is part of why the system is in trouble.

“Ensuring that landlords only rent to those who reside within a State legally”

Where does it say that a state has a right to regulate private contractors? If the landlord owns the property, then it’s his right to disburse as he sees fit. The state has no role in regulating between someone using his private property and the tenent.

“that they do not rent to someone who houses a mob far in excess of reasonable capacity - as illegal alien apartments so often do - is a valid State role.”

Agreed. This is a safety issue. But provided that the landlord abides by the regulations on his property wrt housing, I really cannot see where the state has justification to intervene between a private transaction.

“So you are OK with “sanctuary” but not with enforcement?”

I’m fine with enforcement provided that it doesn’t abrogate the rights of individual citizens in the process.

“Does making your State or City a “sanctuary” for illegal aliens also abrogate the Federal Constitutional role, in your view?”

Absolutely not. States can’t pick and choose which parts of the constitution that they follow, and neither can cities defy the law.

The way to look at it is like this. The Fed has a role in defending the nation from external enemies. If they drop the ball, to what extent does the state have to regulate itself? I understand the frustration that is going on here with Obama and co, but these bills aren’t the solution. The solution is to dump Obama in 2012 and restore sanity.


53 posted on 08/11/2011 1:36:54 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman!)
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To: BenKenobi
They have a compelling STATE interest in making sure such witholdings are legal and for a legal resident. States have a SELF INTEREST in collecting it for nobody and spending it on whatever they want. Self interest is a piss poor excuse for not enforcing the law.

States have a huge role in regulating the renting leasing and residence of all property - just as they have a role in regulating all public commerce - to ensure safety, legality, truth in advertising, collection of sales tax, occupancy regulations, etc, etc.

People do not have a “right” to hire illegal labor, to rent to illegal aliens, to withhold State payments for the wrong person or a non-person, etc, etc.

“Sanity” has been to not enforce the law under both GOP and DEM administrations and Congressional control. There is no “sanity” to return to. The GOP is not our friend on this. The INS is not our friend on this. The Constitution, however, is our friend.

All powers not given to the Fed - and that is a lot of them - are reserved for the people and the States.

You apparently don't see much of a role for the State.

I do.

So does the Constitution.

54 posted on 08/11/2011 2:14:34 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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