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Posted on 08/21/2011 7:39:16 AM PDT by bronxville
Madrid - Pope Benedict XVI warned in a speech to more than one million pilgrims in Madrid that marriage is between a man and a woman and cannot be dissolved...
"The Lord calls many people to marriage, in which a man and a woman, in becoming one flesh, find fulfilment in a profound life of communion," he told the young pilgrims.
A Vatican spokesman said on Sunday as many as 1.5 million pilgrims had gathered to hear the pope. Marriage was a project for true love, deepened by sharing joys and sorrows, and marked by "complete self-giving", said the pope.
"For this reason, to acknowledge the beauty and goodness of marriage is to realize that only a setting of fidelity and indissolubility, along with an openness to God's gift of live, is adequate to the grandeur and dignity of marital love."
The Roman Catholic Church has condemned the sweeping liberal reforms brought in by Spain's Socialist government in recent years, including easier access to abortion, gay marriage and fast-track divorce.
The attitude of the pope, spiritual leader of the world's 1.2 billion Roman Catholics, has sparked anger among the gay and lesbian community in Spain, however.
Spanish police on Thursday foiled plans by 100 gays and lesbians to stage a kiss-in before the pope in Madrid, blocking the protesters before they could meet up.
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“The attitude of the pope, spiritual leader of the world’s 1.2 billion Roman Catholics, has sparked anger among the gay and lesbian community in Spain, however.”
SAY IT ISN’T SO?!!!!!
Yes, one can see clearly that it was nothing to do with the cost as that was covered. It’s all to do with the Church approving their lifestyle which can never happen.
Ana Munoz, 20, student, Atheist, Madrid and London
“I don’t see how a million extra tourists in Spain could be in any way an economic burden for the central and regional governments. It’s putting Spain in the spotlight - and this time not because of our poor economic situation or unemployment rate.”
“I was in town when the protests were happening - and from what I saw the focus was on religion, rather than the cost of the visit.”
“Most of the placards I saw were against the Pope or Christian beliefs. People were shouting harsh things at the pilgrims, referring to the Pope as a “Nazi”. They were also flying communist and Republican flags.”
“I saw two gay men trying to provoke a priest by kissing and taunting him.”
“I am an atheist but I expect people to respect those with faith. By tradition and by majority, Spain is Catholic. A lot of our culture is based on religion.”
“In a way it is not surprising. I feel that the youth movements such as the indignants have been radicalised by those with anti-religious feelings.”
“The Socialist Party, which has been in the government for the past seven years, has had a very clear anti-Christian agenda.”
“This has created an even wider division in society as we are told to negate our religious culture and tradition for the sake of “modernity”.”
Alicia Lopez, 32, unemployed (protestor), Madrid
“I joined the demonstration against the Pope’s visit. The main issue is the cost of the visit, especially at a time when the government is slashing social spending.”
“One Church has taken over the whole city
“Where is all the money coming from? I don’t believe all the money has been raised privately. And they’ve opened up state facilities for use by the Church - for example schools for pilgrims to sleep in.”
“I’m also against the prominence this has given to the Catholic Church. One Church has taken over the whole city. Spain is a non-confessional state, there is no official religion in this country and we should not give so much support to the Catholic Church.”
“I witnessed confrontation between protesters and pilgrims - but from what I saw it was the pilgrims who were doing the provoking.”
“The path of the demonstration took us through the central Sol Square but when we came to it there were pilgrims there. They shouted slogans such as “This square belongs to the Pope” and “This is the youth of Pope” and “This is the youth of Spain”.”
“The police moved them from Sol, but many remained on the roads leading to the central square. Some of the pilgrims continued to shout slogans, which provoked protesters to shout back.”
“As I left the protest with my placard calling for a secular state, a middle-aged woman shouted at me saying I was the shame of Spain.”
Spain needs another Franco to thin out their ranks.
Eva Moreno, 38, lawyer (Catholic), Madrid
“I think it’s great that the leader of the Catholic Church has come to our Catholic country.”
“After all, we allow supporters of Real Madrid to fill the street
“It’s a great moment to remember the core values of the Church like charity and justice.”
“I feel really excited about the visit - I feel young again - and I plan to go to the main events.”
“There are some who are protesting against the visit - but they are small in number compared to those who have come to see the Pope.”
“And I would say to the protesters that we, as Catholics, have the right to express our opinion and our support for the Pope.”
“After all, we allow supporters of Real Madrid to fill the streets. Those who protest should be tolerant of our opinion.”
“I think it is false to say that this visit is costing the taxpayer as the visit is being paid for by pilgrims and sponsors.”
It’s their last hurrah since the governing Socialists aare about to lose to the conservative PP party at the general election in November. The Conservatives will probably takeover in September.
I’m shocked. SHOCKED! Everywhere the pope goes - no matter what country - there are a bunch of gays and lesbians carrying around sparked anger.
If you care about some boy or man, some girl or woman who thinks of themselves as "gay," you find you don't want "lightning" for them, but enlightenment.
Something I want for myself, too, darkened as I often am. Pray for me, if I may ask.
And thanks for spotting that fine and thoughtful statement from atheist Ana Munoz.
"This one is not far from the Kingdom."
I don’t wish this.
The Spanish press is now saying about 2 million people attended the mass. This is about twice as many as were expected; even with the earlier number, Madrid was expected to make about $100 million on the event, so it looks as if they made even more than that. Judging by the spending I saw going on today, I´d say they made a lot more than that!
A lot of the unanticipated people who attended were adults from all over Spain. This has been a real shot in the arm for the Spanish Church, and people I have talked to have said that they don´t feel defensive and afraid anymore, they´ve seen their fellow believers from all over the world, they´ve seen the Pope and have listened to him and seen his faith, and suddenly they´re feeling confident in a way they haven´t felt ever before, or certainly not for almost 50 years, in the case of older people.
While Vatican II had many good things about it, unfortunately it was often interpreted as a rejection of the past and even of traditional faith, and this inspired the left to embark on an all-out campaign to destroy a weakened Church. The Spanish do things in a very whole-hearted way, so it has been particularly vicious in Spain, and the addition of gays to the mix has really put it over the top. So this was a wonderful moment for the average Spanish believer, and I don´t think the left has the upper hand anymore.
Well the Pope simply told the Spanish to vote out those who support this same-sex marriage garbage in the next elections in the coming months. I get the gut feeling that the Spanish are going to set the stage to send packing, with other nations, their socialists.
From what I have seen on last night’s encore on EWTN of the prayer vigil, I have never seen up close to personal, via tv so many happy faces of young people as I had last night. This morning towards the end of Sunday mass, my parish priest got an e-mail from one of a group of 9 young people telling how their experiences in Madrid went. They have been blessed indeed. Also I feel asleep during the adoration part of watching the vigil and the music was so peaceful. If you must fall asleep, do so watching an adoration of Jesus in the Blessed Sacrement.
This was truly a NEEDED shot in the arm of a hurting Church and in special way, in Spain. I say this as a person who grew up under the shadow of VC II.
Well you have been sharing what I have been saying around in the faith threads. The socialists in Spain are on the way out and once the conservatives come in, this type of nonsense as to what was seen by the anti-Pope protesters, including the radical gays will no longer be tolerated. Could be a sign of future elections to come in a number of western countries, including America in the next few years when the socialists are voted out.
wonderful news and pictures. Thank you for posting this
More likely what will happen is that this is the begining of a major “house cleaning” in a number of western governments, and just in western Europe, starting in Spain, but in the USA come next year. The socialist era is over.