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Q Is the True Jesus Christ a 'Saved Being' per Mormonism -- and per reality?

A In contrast to the Mormon christ -- who is but a "saved being"--a mere creature like dear ole Dad, the true Jesus Christ is eternal!

The 'Mormon' Jesus: "Christ is a saved being” (lds "apostle" McConkie, Doctrinal New Testament Commentary, Vol. 3, p 257)

“Modern revelation speaks of our Lord as he that ‘ascended up on high, as also he descended below all things, in that he comprehended all things, that he might be in all and through all things, the light of truth‘ (D&C 88:6). Christ's rise to the throne of exaltation was preceded by his descent below all things. Only by submitting to the powers of demons and death and hell could he, in the resurrection, serve as our exemplar of a saved being... (McConkie and Millet, Doctrinal Commentary on the Book of Mormon, vol. 1, p. 234)

Please also see...
* McConkie, Doctrinal New Testament Commentary, Vol. 3, p. 238 where he said the Mormon "jesus" "Needs salvation...Came to earth to work out His own salvation)
* McConkie, "The Seven Deadly Heresies,' in Speeches of the Year, 1980 [Provo: Brigham Young University Press, 1981] p. 78 where he said: "There was only one perfect being, the Lord Jesus. If men had to be perfect and live all of the law strictly, wholly, and completely, there would be only one saved person in eternity." [cited in Come, Follow Me: Melchizedek Priesthood Personal Study Guide 1983 (1983) p. 72

I'm sorry, but the real Christ did not need to "work out His own salvation" as Lds apostles teach; in fact, He is THE Savior of the world: And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent his Son to be THE Savior of the world. (1 John 4:14; cf. John 4:42).

1 posted on 09/30/2011 11:12:16 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

More ‘thumping ‘ sounds as McConkie gets tossed under the bus again.


2 posted on 09/30/2011 11:14:33 AM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Colofornian

It saddens the heart that Mormons know of Jesus but don’t really know Jesus.


3 posted on 09/30/2011 11:16:18 AM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: Colofornian
I didn't know the J-Man was a Mormon! I thought he was the goalie for my soccer team!


4 posted on 09/30/2011 11:19:03 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Colofornian
While not a theological comment in any sense here's something to chew on. My Boot camp company commander, a Chief B'son Mate, told me had never given anyone an order to do something he hadn't done himself. That turned out to be good advise.
6 posted on 09/30/2011 11:27:39 AM PDT by dblshot (Insanity: electing the same people over and over and expecting different results.)
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To: Colofornian

Short answer: Heresy.


7 posted on 09/30/2011 11:29:47 AM PDT by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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It's sad that these severe cultists have reduced Jesus to a brother of the devil, and the co-decider with Joseph Smith, Jr., as to whether we get into heaven or not.

The mormons have a seriously perverted view of Jesus which I find highly offensive.

11 posted on 09/30/2011 11:56:22 AM PDT by laweeks
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I think rather than beat our orthodox chests in pious triumph, we should be grateful that here in the Doctrines and Covenants is what certainly appears to be an indisputable rejection of Nicene, Ephesian, and Chalcedonian teaching.

Our LDS friends claim to be Christian. Whether that is so, I do not know. When is heresy so great that the heresiarch and his followers can no longer be called Christian? Where is the line?

They claim, sometimes, to be Trinitarian. Again, I do not know. And I don't know how important the mere words "Christian" and "Trinitarian" are if they can comprehend so much variability.

But if they stand by these words, then they cannot claim to agree with Nicea, Ephesus, or Chalcedon.

And if THAT be shown, then we can BEGIN to have a real conversation with them, since there will be some small agreement on, so to speak, the terrain.

14 posted on 09/30/2011 12:14:40 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Jesus, I trust in you.)
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OMG! This was asked?

Hello....Christ...The Savior....is anyone listening?


17 posted on 09/30/2011 12:30:23 PM PDT by astratt7 (obama,muslim,politics)
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Mormons also believe that Jesus was baptised, and the purpose of baptism is tied to the purpose of salvation.


18 posted on 09/30/2011 12:30:53 PM PDT by Burkean (.)
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I was taught this as well when I was LDS. Our ‘elder brother’ Jesus was our example on how to earn salvation and godhood. He was just better at it (no sin) so he got to be “Savior” and earned his godhood immediately.


36 posted on 09/30/2011 2:41:41 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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Makes sense to me.

Mormonism is a works based religion. Enough good works and you become a god. Both God the Father and God the Son had to earn their way to godhood.


73 posted on 10/01/2011 2:22:39 PM PDT by Gamecock (“I’m so thankful for [the] active obedience of Christ. No hope without it.” JGM)
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