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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
"My question" wasn't really my question, it was just the title of the article by Fr. Saunders.

Well, you brought it to the discussion, so you own it. ;)

But I do appreciate it.

It made me go back and study again. And I'm rusty on some of that stuff, and need to study.

But I agree with you and St. Thomas Aquinas. Kill the tyrants to protect the innocent.

In a perfect world, there are no tyrants. I look forward to that. But for now, I'm stuck here on terra.

/johnny

14 posted on 09/30/2011 7:55:58 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
SECOND EDITION

Legitimate defense

2263 The legitimate defense of persons and societies is not an exception to the prohibition against the murder of the innocent that constitutes intentional killing. "The act of self-defense can have a double effect: the preservation of one's own life; and the killing of the aggressor. . . . The one is intended, the other is not."65

2264 Love toward oneself remains a fundamental principle of morality. Therefore it is legitimate to insist on respect for one's own right to life. Someone who defends his life is not guilty of murder even if he is forced to deal his aggressor a lethal blow:

If a man in self-defense uses more than necessary violence, it will be unlawful: whereas if he repels force with moderation, his defense will be lawful. . . . Nor is it necessary for salvation that a man omit the act of moderate self-defense to avoid killing the other man, since one is bound to take more care of one's own life than of another's.66

2265 Legitimate defense can be not only a right but a grave duty for one who is responsible for the lives of others. The defense of the common good requires that an unjust aggressor be rendered unable to cause harm. For this reason, those who legitimately hold authority also have the right to use arms to repel aggressors against the civil community entrusted to their responsibility.

2266 The efforts of the state to curb the spread of behavior harmful to people's rights and to the basic rules of civil society correspond to the requirement of safeguarding the common good. Legitimate public authority has the right and duty to inflict punishment proportionate to the gravity of the offense. Punishment has the primary aim of redressing the disorder introduced by the offense. When it is willingly accepted by the guilty party, it assumes the value of expiation. Punishment then, in addition to defending public order and protecting people's safety, has a medicinal purpose: as far as possible, it must contribute to the correction of the guilty party.67

2267 Assuming that the guilty party's identity and responsibility have been fully determined, the traditional teaching of the Church does not exclude recourse to the death penalty, if this is the only possible way of effectively defending human lives against the unjust aggressor.

16 posted on 09/30/2011 8:04:40 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM ("Verbal engineering always precedes social engineering.")
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