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Margaret Sanger addressed the KKK - Obama says Catholics who defend marriage are like racists
WDTPRS ^ | October 1, 2011 | Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

Posted on 10/01/2011 3:15:17 PM PDT by NYer

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Irony. Margaret Sanger..addressed the KKK but ..Catholics who defend marriage are like racists
21 posted on 10/02/2011 7:00:44 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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Copying my post from another thread on this, with a few typos fixed:

like a Salvador Dali painting

Not at all. It is what to be expected from the ideologies in focus.

Left-wing ideologies are somewhat different, but they all have something in common: they replace the sovereign individual with the community of the race or the nation, or the state. Note that all three community pre-exist the decision of the individual: he is from conception immersed in them. He, therefore, from birth is at the mercy of these communities. That is the right-defying kernel of all ideologies of the Left.

Those who view the individual as a service part of his race are racists. They see the world as a race war.

Those who view the individual as a service part of his nation are nationalists. They see the world as a war between nations.

Those who view the individual as a service part of his state are socialists. They see the world as a war between a private interest and the state's interest.

All three would easily turn pro-death. Whether they are pro-death or not depends not on whether they see the unborn as a person with rights, but on the utility of that person: his utility to the race, a nation, or the state.

There were oppressive regimes that prohibited abortion, but they did it because they wanted the race, or the nation, or the state to be more numerous. They, typically, see everyone including an unborn as a future soldier, and needed human material. The Soviet Union prohibited abortion at first, because they needed workers. When their command economy with all new machines and factories failed to feed the population, they allowed abortion. It is not complicated.

The modern welfare state sees the individual as a mouth to feed and a voter to put on welfare, or if he has means, as a taxpayer to expropriate. The unborn naturally lose, and generally the family as a child-rearing independent economic unit lose. Rights -- or non-rigths presented as rights-- that promote destructive behavior are supported by the American Left. Rights that nurture the individual and the family are viciously opposed. Just ask any "pro-choice" drone if he supports choice in education or privatizing social security and choice of a pension plan, or gun ownership and choice of privatized self-defense, or choice to segregate homosexuals and children. You know what their reaction will be: a blank stare and "you're nazi".

The view on the man as primarily an individual, a son of God, whose rights are from God is opposed to all three flavors of collectivism is the Christian view. The Christian world view is in its essence opposed to all collectivist ideologies if they consider man a service part to the collective.

if it seem evil to you to serve the Lord, you have your choice: choose this day that which pleaseth you, whom you would rather serve, whether the gods which your fathers served in Mesopotamia, or the gods of the Amorrhites, in whose land you dwell: but as for me and my house we will serve the Lord. (Joshua 24:15)

Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men (Acts 5:29)

Surely the Christians understand that individuals join communities, at times even communities where all property is shared. But they do so voluntarily. The last thing the welfare state would allow is for the individuals to voluntarily opt in or out of their state-run schemes.

So why, with these facts being what they are, the Left calls Christians nazis? Easy. Their whole ideology is based on lies and name-calling. Today, "fascist" of "nazi" rarely means anything other than "I don't like you".

22 posted on 10/02/2011 9:37:04 AM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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Really? I don’t doubt it but I thought she was Jewish. Oh well, my mistake. Thanks.


23 posted on 10/02/2011 12:04:05 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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bttt


24 posted on 10/02/2011 4:58:21 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Half the lies they tell about me ain't true." - Yogi Berra)
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How did Lincoln get into this? Lincoln was open enough to invite Frederick Douglass to the White House and to solicit his comments on his 2nd Inaugural address. As for racism in general, this was an age in which most Americans did not think of Germans as white men and had only contempt for the Irish because they were Catholic. The term “race” by the way was more broadly used. It was not uncommon to hear of references to the “French race,” versus the “English race.” Lots of talk about “national character.”


25 posted on 10/02/2011 9:36:43 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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Maggie Higgins hated the Church, and became a socialist. Then during the 20s she began courting the Rockefellers and other rich who were eager to spread birth control among the inferior races. Eugenics was very “toney” among the upper set. The irony is that the upper crust accepted birth control whole hog and large families became passe among them.


26 posted on 10/02/2011 9:42:46 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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