Sadly, the LDS church is honoring a very small jesus.
See my post #10.
The true Jesus is the CREATOR of the whole universe.
The true Jesus existed BEFORE anything else.
Everything was CREATED BY HIM.
The true Jesus holds everything together.
The true Jesus is BEYOND our experience and comprehension, BUT He took on human form for us.
He was NOT a mere human who then became a little bit better than He was before.
From Colossians (KJV).
“For by him were all things created,
that are in heaven, and that are in earth,
visible and invisible,
whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers:
all things were created by him, and for him:
And he is before all things,
and by him all things consist.””
We believe nearly everything you just posted.
Well, let's review Fishtank's list, shall we?
The true Jesus is the CREATOR of the whole universe...Everything was CREATED BY HIM.
Yes, Mormons believe that Jesus and the Father are co-creators. The problem comes with how Mormons define the word "create." When Mormons use the word "create" -- they really mean "organize." They don't believe their gods had the power to "create" out of nothing ("ex-nihilo") -- and so they defy the writer of Hebrews, who wrote: "3 By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God’s command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible." (Heb. 11:3)
So, when Fishtank says, "Everything was created by him" -- that goes thru the Mormon word reorganizer machine and comes out in a Mormon's mind, "Everything was organized by him." Well, of course, Jesus is an organizer. But He's also the CREATOR (from nothing)!
And to that, well, that's not Mormon doctrine. Because Mormon doctrine states that all things are eternal. D&C 93:29,33 shows that not even mankind was in a sense "created" by God or Jesus: "Man was also in the beginning with God. Intelligence, or the light of truth, was not created or made, neither indeed can be...For man is spirit. The elements are eternal and spirit..."
Hence, the Mormon gods are not the true ex-nihilo creators of intelligence. They merely contributed celestial sex so that these intelligences could be translated into spirit kids, and then they sent them to earth to get their bodies.
Fishtank also cited Col. 1:15 -- "all things were created by him, and for him"
But whereas Christians believe Jesus created angels, including Lucifer. Mormons don't. Mormons reduce Jesus to being the elder spirit-bro of Lucifer. As a spirit-bro, he could hardly have created Lucifer. So Mormons make exceptions to Col. 1:15 about who Jesus created.
My Jesus is not small; He is mighty to save; He is my Savior; He suffered and died to save me from my sins. I love Him with all my heart. The Holy Ghost is my witness. This is Heavenly Father’s plan.
Please do not call my Jesus “small”. I am a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, the Church that bears His name.
I will not engage in debate as it is a silly waste of time. I just want to say that I am profoundly offended when you call my Savior “small”.