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To: NYer

That is nuts. Give a teaching role to a bunch of traitors who broke their vows and violated their faith? And for what? They would only be doing something that informed laymen could do perfectly well.

The real crunch of the priest shortage is the absense of enough priests to say Mass and administer the Sacraments.

Lay Deacons or trained laymen are unable to fill that gap. But they are unable to say Mass or do Confessions. But they want to bring in rogue priests to teach the faith?

This plan is backwards in more ways than one.

And there will continue to be a priest shortage until they finally broom out the dissidents and heretics in positions of power and finish cleaning up the seminaries.


5 posted on 10/08/2011 2:24:05 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: Cicero
Just a point of clarification: Permanent deacons are ordained clergy and not laymen in the usual sense of the word.

These vocations are flourishing and will hopefully be able to assist the bishop in areas of need.

However, as you have pointed out, they are unable to say Mass, hear confessions, or administer the Sacrament of the Sick.

15 posted on 10/08/2011 3:20:37 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: Cicero

“And there will continue to be a priest shortage until they finally broom out the dissidents and heretics in positions of power and finish cleaning up the seminaries.”

Cicero, you are so very correct! I’m certainly no expert. I do think, though, that the best way to obtain proper priests in a needed volume is to ensure that seminaries are orthodox, traditional, and that those who teach at said seminaries are themselves orthodox and traditional in both demeanor and teaching. Make sure, as much as possible, of the discerned vocation, screen those seeming unsuited. If it’s working for the more traditional orders and societies (and it does seem to be), then fewer liberal, neo-modernist seminaries should equal a greater amount of solid, orthodox priests. No?


23 posted on 10/08/2011 4:35:29 PM PDT by sayuncledave (et Verbum caro factum est)
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