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To: SeekAndFind
be careful, there is a difference between believing that Jesus is THE Son of God and believing that He is A SON of God.

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A valid point is made in this statement.

The doctrine of man becoming god has been explained to me as follows. Christ is Gods firstborn son, there can be no other firstborn. Jesus Christ is also "Christ", there is only one. Man will not become God. Man will if he accepts Christ as his Lord and follows Him will inherit all that Christ has. Christ said that He would inherit all that His Father had. Mormons say this means all titles, authority, all power and all dominion. If Christ inherits all His Father has that makes Him God. IF we inherit all that Christ has and Christ has all that His Father has what does that make us? The New Testament used the term referring to Christs followers as Joint Heirs.

So as appalling as becoming god sounds I understand it and don't (now) find it offensive.

Thinking that God was ever like man is something I can't explain for you you will have to ask some learned Mormon about that, they are here perhaps they will answer the question.

38 posted on 10/10/2011 9:16:43 AM PDT by JAKraig (Surely my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: JAKraig

It’s not a matter of explaining why Mormons believe that Jesus is not the one and only God or that man may become Gods themselves. I’m not particularly interested in why Mormons feel they can defend the logic of those beliefs.

The issue is that such teachings of Mormonism are vastly different from historic, Biblical Christianity. Therefore, these differences need to be pointed out so that people can see that Christianity and Mormonism are entirely different belief systems.


41 posted on 10/10/2011 9:26:57 AM PDT by Turtlepower
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To: JAKraig

RE: So as appalling as becoming god sounds I understand it and don’t (now) find it offensive.

For the sake of sharper thinking, there still is an important point.

As a Roman Catholic, you DO believe that Jesus Christ IS God ( not CREATED by God, therefore, NOT God’s son in the sense that my son was born from me ). Christ was NEVER MADE, HE ETERNALLY EXISTED. HE *IS* GOD. HE *IS* THE ONLY GOD.

Do Mormons believe this?

The Nicene Creed which I believe you subscribe to clarifies this and deifferentiates those IN the faith and OUT of the faith with this statement :

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“We believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of all things visible and invisible. We believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible.

And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, begotten of the Father [the only-begotten; that is, of the essence of the Father, God of God], Light of Light, very God of very God, begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father; And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father before all worlds (æons), Light of Light, very God of very God, begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father;

By whom all things were made [both in heaven and on earth];

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If Mormon’s do not subscribe to this, then even Catholic tradition cannot consider them Christian.


42 posted on 10/10/2011 9:28:52 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (u)
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