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To: Campion
"How he intervenes in it is completely up to him."

Absolutely true. And He has chosen to manage every single detail.

Is. 45:7 - The One forming light and creating darkness, causing well-being and creating calamity; I am the Lord who does all these.

Prov. 16:33 - The lot is cast into the lap, but its every decision is from the Lord.

Prov. 21:1 - The king's heart is like a channel of water in the hand of the Lord. He turns it wherever He wishes.

Exodus 7:2,3 - "You shall speak all that I command you, and your brother Aaron shall speak to Pharaoh that he let the sons of Israel go out of his land. But I will harden Pharaoh's heart that I may multiply My signs and My wonders in the land of Egypt.

Free will? Randomness? Chance? ...LOL

You are putty in His hands, just as we all are. The God of the Bible is so much in control of His universe, as testified to in His Scriptures, that every detail is managed by Him. However, Rome is so darkened in the course of their own minds that they war with Him...but even this is managed by God.

I am directed to encourage you to escape their clutches...if you can.

69 posted on 10/11/2011 11:36:23 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: Dutchboy88

To what end are you directed to encourage anyone to leave the “clutches” (LOL - as if we’re not free to leave at any time) of the Catholic Church? If it is as you say, then your words are utterly incapable of affecting a change in anyone that would lead to what you regard as a genuine Christian conversion.

Too, what makes you so certain that you belong to the exclusive club of God’s chosen? What guarantee do you have that you’ll persevere to the end?

What do you say when you evangelize? “I’m compelled to share the Gospel, but it may not matter. You could be one of those who’ve been preselected by God for damnation.”

If that’s the true Gospel, I want no part of it.


71 posted on 10/11/2011 5:02:26 PM PDT by djrakowski
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To: Dutchboy88
I am directed to encourage you to escape their clutches...if you can.

If there is no free will and all is determined by God then the only one's clutches we are in is God's and there is no escape.

101 posted on 10/12/2011 6:04:33 PM PDT by Petrosius
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