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Mars Hill Pastor Mark Driscoll: Mormonism is a cult
Seattle Times ^ | Oct. 18, 2011 | Posted by Jim Brunner

Posted on 10/19/2011 5:25:28 AM PDT by Colofornian

With Mitt Romney campaigning...his Mormon religion is coming under increasing scrutiny.

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Now Mark Driscoll, pastor of the high-profile Seattle-based Mars Hill Church, has added his voice to the fray -- agreeing that Christians should consider Mormons as members of a "cult" and not "brothers and sisters in a common faith."

Writing on his website Tuesday, Driscoll goes on at length about the various definitions of a cult. He is careful to say that Mormonism has "outgrown" the popular culture and sociological definitions of a cult because of its enormous growth and general acceptance in the nation.

But, Driscoll writes, Mormonism "is most certainly a cult theologically speaking because it deviates substantially from historic Orthodox Christian belief about essential issues related to God, humanity, and salvation." And it's not just that it differs, he says, but also that "it claims Christianity while subtly subverting it in both practice and theology."

"Because it claims to be Christian, uses Christian language, but is antithetical Christianity, it must be labeled a cult theologically," Driscoll writes.

He concludes:

"So what do we make of all this? Simply said, by the theological definition, Mormonism is a cult."

"As the presidential race heats up and the prospect of a practicing Mormon as a viable Republican candidate becomes more a reality, there will be continued effort to bring Mormonism into the center of Christian orthodoxy..."

"...we cannot go so far as to call them brothers and sisters in a common faith. To do so is to not only confuse real Christians, but to also diminish the importance of lovingly speaking with Mormons about the errors of their belief in hopes of seeing them come to know the real God of the Bible and avoiding eternal damnation for worshiping a false god."

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


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To: Siena Dreaming
Question is...would it hurt the US to elect the first non-Orthodox Christian ever to the Oval Office?

I think Carter was Baptist.

21 posted on 10/19/2011 6:35:42 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Siena Dreaming
Question is...would it hurt the US to elect the first non-Orthodox Christian ever to the Oval Office?

I assume you are thinking of Romney?

He is not a 'non-Orthodox Christian', or even an Orthodox one. He's no kind of Christian at all; but a MORMON.

22 posted on 10/19/2011 6:37:32 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Colofornian

I had a thought whil;e I was reading this post...

Just as Barry has played around with homosexual “rights” and attempted to give a deciant sex act acceptance in the main stream by pushing it on to us...

Whats to stop a president Romney from doing the same with the deviant sex polygamy ???

Barry makes policy from the Oval Office ignoring Congress...

Romney has an even bigger ego and he might not hesitant to change the law of the land with a stroke of his pen and make polygamy legal...

Probably starting off like Barry did with the military...

polygamists will be allowed to live in base housing with all their wives and children...

and get BASZ for them all so he can feed them...

Plus other bennies...

and of course the free base clinics and Champus for all...

And hey, after that we might find ourselves with our first polygamist president...

With First Lady One, First Lady Two etc

or would that be the First First Lady, the Second First Lady...


23 posted on 10/19/2011 6:37:42 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana
...come nightfall.

That's why they need the torches; too...

24 posted on 10/19/2011 6:39:02 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Molon Labbie

I’ll take a temple any day over a mosque
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No you wont...

While you will probably be allowed in the mosque since you are a man,,,

You definitely wouldnt get passed the door in a mormon temple...

Youre not a mormon...

youre an apostate, a whore of babylon, etc to Mormons...

and only about 25% of members of Mormonism are allowed into the mormon temples...

Mormon temples...theyre not for everyone...


25 posted on 10/19/2011 6:44:36 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Molon Labbie
I’ll take a temple any day over a mosque

So, are you saying that you will take a less violent religion over a more violent religion?

Being moral will not get you to Jesus!
26 posted on 10/19/2011 6:54:44 AM PDT by ForAmerica (Conservative Christian Black Man!)
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To: Tennessee Nana
and only about 25% of members of Mormonism are allowed into the mormon temples...


Even less that that if you are a black Mormon
27 posted on 10/19/2011 7:04:04 AM PDT by ForAmerica (Conservative Christian Black Man!)
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To: Colofornian

One other “attribute” of a cult which we learned/discussed in Seminary is that cults base beliefs on “extra-Biblical” writings or teachings. “Book Of Mormon” is most definitely “extra-Biblical”.


28 posted on 10/19/2011 7:12:05 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: Siena Dreaming
Liberation Theology breaks the First Commandment. It puts the state before God. It bows down to and worships the golden calf of Marxism rather than God.

Big problem there....And, there is good reason to believe that Obama is not a Christian. Would a Christian **bow** to a Muslim Saudi Arabian king? ( I don't think so.)

29 posted on 10/19/2011 7:12:46 AM PDT by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: Tennessee Nana

I don’t know where you’re coming from but, I’m no Mormon and have been welcomed in several temples.


30 posted on 10/19/2011 7:18:39 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Public employee unions are the barbarian hordes of our time.)
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To: Colofornian

And Mormonism fits all of these.

Good thread and now I’m back on the road. Take care, Colo.


31 posted on 10/19/2011 7:20:19 AM PDT by reaganaut (Romney IS Obama - just 'white and delightsome' 2 Nephi 30:6)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

I’m no Mormon and have been welcomed in several temples.

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That is NO possible, only worthy members are allowed in temples unless you are talking about open hoses (before they are finished) or mean local ward houses which are NOT the same as LDS temples.

Most Mormons are not allowed in Mormon temples.


32 posted on 10/19/2011 7:22:55 AM PDT by reaganaut (Romney IS Obama - just 'white and delightsome' 2 Nephi 30:6)
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To: reaganaut; Psycho_Bunny

Pay to play perhaps? j/k

What Reaganaut says is correct. The only time a non-worthy anybody is allowed into a temple is during an open house, prior to its “dedication”. Meeting houses is more likely.

Other than that, forget it. Even the vast majority of mormons are denied entry to the temples because they haven’t worked at the temple worthiness checklist hard enough.

Which, according to mormon doctrine, if you don’t get through the temple, you can’t attain all of the “highest blessings” by engaging in non-biblical rituals in order to earn the celestial kingdom, where the mormon god dwells.


33 posted on 10/19/2011 7:31:20 AM PDT by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: Turtlepower
“...others are correctly concerned about the spiritual welfare of their Mormon neighbors...”

What should the “others” do about their concerns for their neighbors spiritual welfare?

34 posted on 10/19/2011 7:36:39 AM PDT by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: starlifter

Proclaim the Gospel of Jesus Christ and lovingly show their errors of false teachings, like Mormonism.


35 posted on 10/19/2011 7:56:11 AM PDT by Turtlepower
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To: Turtlepower
And if they really think you are wrong and don't want to listen to you?
36 posted on 10/19/2011 8:04:39 AM PDT by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: Colofornian; P-Marlowe; wmfights; Quix; Buggman

Actually, I do not think Mormonism is a Christian cult. That’s because I don’t think it is part of historic Christianity. It is an entirely new religion with its own revelation, its own holy book, and its own prophet.

If Mormonism, with its new definition of Jesus Christ, is a Christian cult, then so is Islam with its new definition of Jesus Christ.

A Christian cult would be something like the “children of god” with David Berg or “the people’s temple” with Jim Jones. They had their leader/prophet, their own interpretations, but they also used historic Christian writings and twisted Christian doctrine.


37 posted on 10/19/2011 8:09:50 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: starlifter

Is that a serious question????

All one can do is pray, ask God to open the heart of an unbeliever, and share The Truth will that person. It’s up to each person to accept the Gospel.


38 posted on 10/19/2011 8:19:41 AM PDT by Turtlepower
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To: Siena Dreaming
Question is...would it hurt the US to elect the first non-Orthodox Christian ever to the Oval Office?

Question already answered with 0bama

39 posted on 10/19/2011 8:20:18 AM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Siena Dreaming

I don’t think you have looked at the teaching as described above. These guys are not methodists, and with all due respect, orthodox Jews are closer to Christianity than Mormons are. If words mean anything. To be sure, they are good people. But so are most atheists.

And if you are a teacher, don’t cross a Mormon school board.


40 posted on 10/19/2011 8:32:43 AM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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