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To: wmfights

A candidates character is in issue as to piety but not his religion......touting ones religion always is disasterous with the US electorate, because we have freedom to worship as we wish,and an establishment clause which separates church and state. Thats the moral base.

Benjamin Franklin said it well:

“You desire to know something of my religion. It is the first time I have been questioned upon it. But I cannot take your curiosity amiss, and shall endeavour in a few words to gratify it. Here is my creed. I believe in one God, Creator of the Universe. That He governs it by His providence. That He ought to be worshipped. That the most acceptable service we render Him is doing good to His other children. That the soul of man is immortal, and will be treated with justice in another life respecting its conduct in this. These I take to be the fundamental principles of all sound religion, and I regard them as you do in whatever sect I meet with them.

“As to Jesus of Nazareth, my opinion of whom you particularly desire, I think the system of Morals and his Religion, as he left them to us, the best the World ever saw or is likely to see; but I apprehend it has received various corrupt changes, and I have, with most of the present Dissenters in England, some doubts as to his divinity; though it is a question I do not dogmatize upon, having never studied it, and think it needless to busy myself with it, when I expect soon an opportunity of knowing the Truth with less trouble. I see no harm, however, in its being believed, if that belief has the good consequence, as probably it has, of making his doctrines more respected and better observed; especially as I do not perceive that the Supreme takes it amiss, by distinguishing the unbelievers in His government of the world with any particular marks of His displeasure.

“I shall only add, respecting myself, that, having experienced the goodness of that Being in conducting me prosperously through a long life, I have no doubt of its continuance in the next, without the smallest conceit of meriting it... I confide that you will not expose me to criticism and censure by publishing any part of this communication to you. I have ever let others enjoy their religious sentiments, without reflecting on them for those that appeared to me unsupportable and even absurd. All sects here, and we have a great variety, have experienced my good will in assisting them with subscriptions for building their new places of worship; and, as I never opposed any of their doctrines, I hope to go out of the world in peace with them all.”

[Benjamin Franklin, letter to Ezra Stiles, President of Yale, shortly before his death; from “Benjamin Franklin” by Carl Van Doren, the October, 1938 Viking Press edition pages 777-778 Also see Alice J. Hall, “Philosopher of Dissent: Benj. Franklin,” National Geographic, Vol. 148, No. 1, July, 1975, p. 94]


11 posted on 10/19/2011 5:36:50 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2.009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Candor7

You might want to click on the link and read Pastor Jeffress’ entire opinion.


12 posted on 10/19/2011 5:38:31 PM PDT by wmfights (PERRY 2012)
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To: Candor7
I can agree with your points only up to when a so called ‘religion’ has ceased being and become something else....rather has a clear political agenda and plan for this nation ,via it's leadership, which conflicts or directly opposes our constitution.... and as much becomes politically ‘active’ to position ‘their people’ into positions of power as a means of moving their agenda/ideology thru those positions of power within our government.
19 posted on 10/19/2011 6:04:34 PM PDT by caww
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To: Candor7; altura
Good posts.

What someone professes is utterly useless in judging that person; their actions are the only measure.

The only belief(s) I'd automatically shun are islam and dogmatic socialism.

Unfortunately, both of those, and some downright nasty individual 'Christians' cloak themselves in pleasant sounding generalities.

I've dealt with Mormons as well as people of most other beliefs; It's how one deals with others rather than what one may believe in or pay lip service to that matters.

21 posted on 10/19/2011 6:13:00 PM PDT by norton
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