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To: Colofornian
Are any Mormons & JWs willing to answer that Q?

I am!

--MormonDude(It mattereth not.)

23 posted on 10/24/2011 4:51:05 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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--MormonDude(It mattereth not.)

Allow me to get out my peepstone & my pet rock and "translate" Elsie's "It mattereth not."

You see, the Mormon god of Smith's "Doctrines & Covenants" "scriptures" isn't very "sovereign." He's hesitant. He's shifty. He's just not sure if polygamy is "out" or "in"; or what to do with somebody's darker skin as it pertains to their special priesthood.

Just about ALL of the D&C is written in first-person form -- as if the Mormon main god is speaking directly through Smith. Now, I ask you: Why would this Mormon god take the time to include the phrase, "it mattereth not" in the middle of giving counsel? (He's not saying "it doesn't matter" in response to a query or question.)

Two examples of 'it mattereth not':

* "And then you may return to bear record, yea, even altogether, or two by two, as seemeth you good, IT MATTERETH NOT UNTO ME (D&C 62:5)
* "Let there be a craft made, or bought, as seeth you good, IT MATTERETH NOT unto me... (D&C 60:5)

Right before this, the Mormon god is revoking commandments he just made (D&C 63:4; again, v. 5; again, v. 6)

You see, the Mormon god of the D&C isn't exactly a "take-charge" kind of guy. He doesn't come across as a true "Lord." He uses phrases like "as circumstances shall permit" -- as if the circumstances were "Lord" and not Him. Or he'll use the phrase "peradventure" repeatedly as if He was catering to random happenstance:

* "And verily I say unto you, the rest of my servants, go ye forth as your circumstances shall permit... (D&C 84:117 [circumstances are their "lord" of their lives?]
* "Therefore, you are dissolved as a united order with your brethren, that you are not bound only up to this hour unto them, only on this wise, as I said, by loan as shall be agreed by this order in council, as your circumstances will admit and the voice of the council direct." (D&C 104:53 -- the "United Order" btw, was the Mormon 19th century attempt @ socialistic communism)

Now the above isn't simply Joseph Smith giving orders as "prophet" of the church. He is speaking first-person throughout talking about how "all these properties are mine" (v. 55, etc.)

It's like the Mormon god is saying: "Do this...um...provided circumstances kick in and the council OKs it."

D&C 103:32-33: So much for a "sovereign" Mormon god here as well: "Therefore, if you cannot obtain five hundred, seek diligently that peradventure you may obtain three hundred. And if ye cannot obtain three hundred, seek diligently that peradventure ye may obtain one hundred." (Let's face it: The Mormon god just doesn't know how many)

In v. 35, the Mormon god uses the word "peradventure" for a third time...I mean, come on. Who's "lord" to who in this tall tales of Smith's "revelations?"

25 posted on 10/24/2011 11:09:40 PM PDT by Colofornian (Anyone who can be duped by Joseph Smith can be duped by anyone.)
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