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To: PapaNew; Gamecock; P-Marlowe
As a pastor, I totally agree that Christians today lack joy and are not overcomers. What I would challenge everyone to find is what the Bible says on that subject.

Joel Osteen, in this article, says some things regarding biblical teaching that are absolute kryptonite to a biblical Christian: "I probably don’t get hung up in them because I haven’t really studied them or thought about them. And you know, I just try to let God be the judge of that. I mean, I don’t know. "

I will let the underlined words stand on their own merit without comment.

39 posted on 10/27/2011 4:50:53 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: xzins; PapaNew; Gamecock
I suspect that the only reason Joel Osteen is not a Mormon is because he couldn't make millions of dollars a year by being a Mormon preacher. He preaches nonsense to make his flock feel good about themselves. He sells his flock a boatload of feel good nonsense and they in turn give him a boatload of money while they all merrily sail along on their voyage to hellfire and damnation.

When push comes to shove, Osteen is nothing more than a modern day Joseph Smith.

41 posted on 10/27/2011 5:42:11 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: xzins
absolute kryptonite to a biblical Christian...I haven’t really studied them or thought about them

In context, it looks like he's answering Wallace's questions about the validity of Mormonism. Osteen is essentially saying that he hasn't studied Mormonism so he can't comment. Seems fair to me. Not studying Mormonism is not anathema to the Christian faith.

Cult identification and analysis is not what Joel is anointed to do. He is anointed, however, to help God's people break strongholds and victoriously move into the inheritance God has for them. Heb. 3:11-4:11. He's pushing back the gates of Hell and Satan doesn't like it one bit.

I'll be along side of Joel (at least in the spirit of imparting eternal faith, hope, and charity in the power of the Spirit and the grace of the Lord Jesus) if and when God calls me to do so.

44 posted on 10/27/2011 3:02:22 PM PDT by PapaNew
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