Posted on 10/27/2011 4:05:56 PM PDT by rzman21
Ohhh NO ...not YOU TOO
Canon 3.If anyone says that the sacrifice of the mass is only of praise and thanksgiving; or that it is a mere commemoration of the sacrifice consummated on the cross but not a propitiatory one; or that it profits him only who receives, and ought not to be offered for the living and the dead, for sins, punishments, satisfactions, and other necessities, let him be anathema.
So then it must have been SPIRITUAL FLESH... not the actual real fleshand blood of Christ .... you know mormons have doctrine too.. you can keep appealing to doctrine..but it gains you no points... Catholic doctrine is based on pagan practices and beliefs
It seems so often the RCC Catechism disagrees with what Catholics say on this site.
We are running up quite a list of the concepts you appear to have absolutely no grasp of.
1) The REAL PRESENCE is the one sacrifice made present. It is not a reenactment or a commemoration.
2) Anathema is an instruction on conduct to Catholics who remain in communion.
What was Pauls gospel? Do you know?
1) The REAL PRESENCE is the one sacrifice made present. It is not a reenactment or a commemoration.
This CANON addresses the SACRIFICE OF THE MASS ...which you said was a reenactment
2) Anathema is an instruction on conduct to Catholics who remain in communion.
anathema is accursed.. and you my friend entered the land of the cursed this reformation day when you said the mass was a REENACTMENT
Nice try though
Ignatius of Antioch, Epistle to the Smyrnaeans, Chapter 6, 110 A.D.:
Take note of those who hold heterodox opinions on the grace of Jesus Christ which has come to us, and see how contrary their opinions are to the mind of God ... They abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer because they do not confess that the Eucharist is the flesh of our Savior Jesus Christ, flesh which suffered for our sins and which that Father, in his goodness, raised up again. They who deny the gift of God are perishing in their disputes.
St Ignatius, personally instructed in the Faith by St John, wrote this 1,901 years ago and though he was talking about the Gnostics of his day, could very well have been speaking to the non-Christians on this thread. keep perishing in your disputes.
You had better answer the Grand Inquisitor General Torquemomof7 promptly. Insolence will not be tolerated.
Again, there's where you fail...We don't ask ourselves or the masters of philosophy, your clergy...We ask God...
It's because Jesus body was beaten and killed, His blood was emptied on the ground to pay for the sins that we could never pay for...
Every time a sinner goes to communion and partakes of the bread and wine in unbelief, it's an affront to Jesus...
Even while Jesus sits on the throne in heaven, it's an affront to Jesus...
What inspired infallible book do i find Ignatius in ? Did he believe that the apostles ate the actual flesh that christ was wearing???
See #467, isn’t it amazing the more things change, the more they stay the same? same heresies, same opposition to Christ.
What ever your motivation might be you are bearing false witness against me. I hope that it only an error. In my post #382 I said:
"The Eucharist is the One Sacrifice made present. It is NOT a re-sacrifice or a reenactment."
Could be said about the Catholics today.
stop persisting with your Gnostic unbelief, trust Jesus.
Let us not forget Fatima...The daughter of Mohammed and the name given to Jesus mother...Muzlims and Catholics gather together in Portugal to worship Mary in Fatima...
The Mary watch is on. She is the key.
King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
John 8:44
Canon 3.If anyone says that the sacrifice of the mass is only of praise and thanksgiving; or that it is a mere commemoration of the sacrifice consummated on the cross but not a propitiatory one; or that it profits him only who receives, and ought not to be offered for the living and the dead, for sins, punishments, satisfactions, and other necessities, let him be anathema.
Trent
Canons on the Sacrifice of the Mass
Canon 1.If anyone says that in the mass a true and real sacrifice is not offered to God; or that to be offered is nothing else than that Christ is given to us to eat, let him be anathema.
Canon 2.If anyone says that by those words, Do this for a commemoration of me, Christ did not institute the Apostles priests; or did not ordain that they and other priests should offer His body and blood, let him be anathema.
Canon 3.If anyone says that the sacrifice of the mass is only of praise and thanksgiving; or that it is a mere commemoration of the sacrifice consummated on the cross but not a propitiatory one; or that it profits him only who receives, and ought not to be offered for the living and the dead, for sins, punishments, satisfactions, and other necessities, let him be anathema.
Canon 4.If anyone says that by the sacrifice of the mass a blasphemy is cast upon the most holy sacrifice of Christ consummated on the cross; or that the former derogates from the latter, let him be anathema.
Canon 5.If anyone says that it is a deception to celebrate masses in honor of the saints and in order to obtain their intercession with God, as the Church intends, let him be anathema.
Canon 6.If anyone says that the canon of the mass contains errors and is therefore to be abrogated, let him be anathema.
Canon 7.If anyone says that the ceremonies, vestments, and outward signs which the Catholic Church uses in the celebration of masses, are incentives to impiety rather than stimulants to piety, let him be anathema.
Canon 8.If anyone says that masses in which the priest alone communicates sacramentally are illicit and are therefore to be abrogated, let him be anathema.
Canon 9.If anyone says that the rite of the Roman Church, according to which a part of the canon and the words of consecration are pronounced in a low tone, is to be condemned; or that the mass ought to be celebrated in the vernacular tongue only; or that water ought not to be mixed with the wine that is to be offered in the chalice because it is contrary to the institution of Christ, let him be anathema
http://www.catholicapologetics.info/modernproblems/newmass/trent.htm
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This canon was about THE MASS... not the "eucharist" ..me thinks thou does deny too much... welcome to the world of the accursed
I trust Jesus as my Lord and Savior.. I trust that His sacrifice was sufficient to save me... What do you trust Jesus for?
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