From the article: Paredes, the Mormon representative, claimed that Mormons have “never” been permitted to “baptize” the dead beyond their own ancestors? Yet even Lds “presidents” of the church have done that!!! Lds "prophet" Wilford Woodruff baptized 100 different people from John Wesley to all but 3 U.S. presidents and 56 Declaration of Independence signers in the late 19th century.
From the article: Mormons like to frame their temple actions toward the dead – practices such as...
...baptisms,
...ordinations,
...washings and anointings,
...endowments and sealings
-- as proxy means of simply giving dead spirits a “choice” in the afterlife. The problem with this revisionism of Mormon history is this is not the way some earlier Mormon “prophets” framed this temple activity. For example, Wilford Woodruff, the same Mormon “prophet” who began halting Mormon polygamy, claimed past-tense redemption via such baptisms of the dead, saying “I have had some thousands redeemed here.” How does he know they were “redeemed” if they still had to choose? Did the dead communicate with him?
Since you have stated time and time again that you believe that Mormonism is a bunch of hooey, what difference does it make? I don’t get it. You use the word “literal” - what on earth?
How many Mormon threads does this make for you today?
You’re on a roll. Methinks you’re eating too much sugar from the kiddie’s buckets.
When one considers that the "inventor" of their cult was an adulterer, stone reader, embezzler, and major con-man, then I guess they can think that they can be anything.
But any decently informed Christian has nothing but pity for them to be so horribly mislead by the teachings of the LDS.
May Joseph Smith, Jr., rest in peace on the planet Kolob (which he hasn't told us where to find it). And may his 40+ wives rest in peace with him. Maybe if he'd left his magic stones back here in Ohio, we could find the money he embezzled from the citizens in Kirtland . . . they don't talk much about Kirtland.
Meknows you iz over the target
Bombs away !!!
Once again - vomit!
mormonISM is sick and a blasphemy of the Bible.
SUREly they can do as well as their adored founder and Leader: Joseph Smith!
They succeeded in killing Joseph, but he had finished his work.He was a servant of God, and gave us the Book of Mormon.He said the Bible was right in the main, but, through the translators and others, many precious portions were suppressed, and several other portions were wrongly translated; and now his testimony is in force, for he has sealed it with his blood.As I have frequently told them, no man in this dispensation will enter the courts of heaven, without the approbation of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Jun.Who has made this so?Have I?Have this people?Have the world?No; but the Lord Jehovah has decreed it.If I ever pass into the heavenly courts, it will be by the consent of the Prophet Joseph.If you ever pass through the gates into the Holy City, you will do so upon his certificate that you are worthy to pass.Can you pass without his inspection?No; neither can any person in this dispensation, which is the dispensation of the fulness of times.In this generation, and in all the generations that are to come, everyone will have to undergo the scrutiny of this Prophet.They say that they killed Joseph, and they will yet come with their hats under their arms and bend to him; but what good will it do them, unless they repent?They can come in a certain way and find favor, but will they?
--JOURNAL OF DISCOURSES, vol. 8, p. 224
See my tagline.
Wait a minute? I can baptized for the living as a well...breathing and now symbol of LDS?
When did this Shiite happen?
Why was I not consulted about a decision so important?
What information is required for LDS “members” to do this?
Thank you for this thread
Mormons have hated me and my Christian beliefs ande my family and their Christian beliefs for 180 years..
A couple of exposing threads over a couple of weeks or months hardly makes up for all the pain and hatred sent our way from the devotees of Joseph Smith...
Paredes, the Mormon representative, claimed that Mormons have “never” been permitted to “baptize” the dead beyond their own ancestors?
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He can “claim” all he wants to
but it has happened time and time agtain...
My ancestors are not the ancestors of the ones who have scoured the cemetaries and taken their names from their well kept tombstones...
or got their names from military rolls or from books of transcribed church records...
This is such an evil ghoulish practice...
I turns my stomach to know that not only were my Christian ancestors dead dunked into Mormonism...
But also many of the Jeweish victims of Hitler were also along with Hitler himself...
How sick and perverted does this practice of necro-baptism get ???
How would Tommy Monson like to be dead dunked into Anism or Islam ???
Today is my grandmother’s birthday (my mothers mother)
Although shes been dead for 50 years and died a well documented Christian no doubt she was dead dunked into Mormonism...
On my fathers side I have found his grandmother who died in 1945 and some of her forbears back a bit...
The Mormons have some erroneous info on this lady, my great grandmother, but they have refused over the years to change their records...
Regardless of the fact that I have correct and official documents they claim they never make any mistakes...
Members of her family have also been dead dunked, endowed, married, and sealed all the way dfown to all living descendants...
Since this happened to one of them in the 1950s and I was already born, that made me a living descendant, a Mormon according to the Mormon beliefs...
Well i dont want to be a Mormon...so that now makes me an “apostate”...
and that destines me to the Mormon so called “outer darkness”
SIGH
See how much easier it is just to believe in the REAL God...the LORD Jesus Christ and Him crucified ???