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The Errors of Martin Luther's German Bible
http://www.cogwriter.com/luther.htm ^

Posted on 11/01/2011 6:08:48 PM PDT by rzman21

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To: rzman21

“I might add that Tyndale was burned by the Church of England, which had separated from the Catholic Church.”

No. Go read some history.

As for the KJV, there were so many printings that printing errors accumulated. It has been revised to keep pace with changes in the English language, with full revisions coming out as the Revised version, ASV, and Revised Standard.

But the DR as you know it was based on the KJV, tweaked for Catholic doctrine.


61 posted on 11/01/2011 8:43:58 PM PDT by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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To: rzman21; Mr Rogers

notice mr rogers did not reply to post #16, where i gave an example of a verse in James where i am sure he would object to adding the word “alone”. i am sure he also objects the the Mormons and JW’s changing a word here and there, like say in John 1.


62 posted on 11/01/2011 8:44:45 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: rzman21
you are not proceeding with an open mind.

Reading the mind of another Freeper is a form of "making it personal."

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

63 posted on 11/01/2011 8:45:19 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Mr Rogers

speaking of history, still waiting for the history of the Baptists and of the groups that rejected Catholic doctrine from the beginning. teach brother, teach!!


64 posted on 11/01/2011 8:46:26 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: rzman21

“What you have documented is Protestant propaganda.”

No, it is not.

But I cannot convince someone who refuses to read history, or calls anything he disagrees with lies.

Anyone reading this thread can read what I posted, and follow the links.


65 posted on 11/01/2011 8:47:13 PM PDT by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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To: rzman21
The oral word and preaching of the apostles preceded the written word

The apostles preached before the written word?

Isaiah, Kings, Genesis, etc are not the written word?

66 posted on 11/01/2011 8:48:19 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

Notice you have not responded at all to the fact that the Catholic Church opposed vernacular translations in the hands of commoners.

You complain of one word in a translation that followed what is now called dynamic translation, and ignore the policy of the Catholic Church to prevent common man from reading scripture at all.


67 posted on 11/01/2011 8:49:45 PM PDT by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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To: Mr Rogers
Luther made in his defense of the added adverb were that it was demanded by the context and that sola was used in the theological tradition before him. Robert Bellarmine listed eight earlier authors who used sola

Interesting...thanks.

68 posted on 11/01/2011 8:51:08 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: Mr Rogers

tyndale was killed in 1536, henry broke from rome in 1534.
go read some history.


69 posted on 11/01/2011 8:51:44 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

Sorry. Don’t have time to write a full history of Christianity tonight.

Meanwhile - why did the Catholic Church, as a matter of policy, oppose common man from reading God’s Word?

Why complain about one word that does not change the meaning of the ext, and ignore the policy to deny any word to commoners?


70 posted on 11/01/2011 8:51:53 PM PDT by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

Where was Tyndale killed?

I’ll give you a hint - it was NOT England.

History.


71 posted on 11/01/2011 8:53:13 PM PDT by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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To: Siena Dreaming

they preached all over the Roman world for decades before the NT was written.


72 posted on 11/01/2011 8:53:14 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: patlin

The manmade people who read the scriptures. Every Protestant is his or her own Pope, which means they implicitly claim that their private judgment is superior to scripture.

It wasn’t too many centuries after that Protestant thinkers graduated from saying they were their own Pope to saying they were their own gods too.

If you point this fact out the only resort is to play ostrich.

Calvinists say the Bible alone teaches double predestination.

Arminians and Lutherans refer to that same Bible to say the Calvinists are wrong and vice versa.

Baptists say the Bible forbids infant baptism, but Lutherans, Calvinists, and Methodists say the same Bible allows it.

Lutherans say the Bible says that Christ is present in, with ,and under the species of bread and wine in Holy Communion. Calvinists say Christ is spiritually present in Holy Communion because the Bible tells them so. And Baptists say Holy Communion is a symbol.

Baptists and Pentacostals say the Bible alone tells them about the rapture and once saved, always saved, yet Lutherans say the Bible rejects that teaching.

And the list goes on. Moral relativism is the offspring of Protestant confusion over what the Bible because the end result of Sola Scriptura is doctrinal relativism because Protestants can’t agree what the Bible actually means.

There is One God and One Holy Spirit, so there can’t be 10s of thousands of correct conflicting interpretations of the Bible.

There can only be one that is correct, which necessitates a single interpreter to lull the chaos.


73 posted on 11/01/2011 8:54:28 PM PDT by rzman21
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To: Mr Rogers

i believe it was in brussels, controlled by England.

history.


74 posted on 11/01/2011 8:55:07 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: Mr Rogers

rzman21 dealt with it, i have nothing to add. now what about adding “alone” to James, does it make it more readable?


75 posted on 11/01/2011 8:56:40 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
But there WAS Scripture before the apostles.

There was a body of believers and an inspired Word of God.

76 posted on 11/01/2011 8:56:45 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: Mr Rogers

Most commoners couldn’t read.


77 posted on 11/01/2011 8:56:50 PM PDT by rzman21
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To: Mr Rogers

They are like going to a Communist blog to read about the Republican Party.


78 posted on 11/01/2011 8:57:33 PM PDT by rzman21
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

“i believe it was in brussels, controlled by England.

history.”

History. Try reading some, and get back with me. I refuse to spoon feed you history.


79 posted on 11/01/2011 8:58:57 PM PDT by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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To: Mr Rogers

That’s not true. Challoner looked to the KJV for stylistic cues and syntax.

I’ve read my history. I don’t need to read propaganda.


80 posted on 11/01/2011 8:59:20 PM PDT by rzman21
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